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Re: Pentagon Lays Plans for Martial Law

Unread postby k_semler » Sun 28 Aug 2005, 01:42:51

1. "What if..." is a game for children, and simple minds. Since the federalies are obviously not childern, that leaves only one option, dosen't it?
2. Pfft! I have no friends, foriegn or domestic.
3. If it gets half as bad as I think it will be, you will probably see me covered on CNN Headline News as a "Millitia, Right-Wing, Domestic Terrorist with an 'assault weapon' and a 'cache of arms'".
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Re: Pentagon Lays Plans for Martial Law

Unread postby evilmonkeyspanker » Sun 28 Aug 2005, 02:05:18

If crap goes down bad, the government will never find me. I will find a nice safe place, change my idenity / looks / and distroy all personally identifing information including but not limited to my finger prints... of course I will still have the same dna :( unless somebody on here has a way of changing my intire cell makeup without alot of pain :P
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Re: Pentagon Lays Plans for Martial Law

Unread postby k_semler » Sun 28 Aug 2005, 02:31:47

Sure, just camp out on the Hanford Nuclear Reservation for like a year, and drink unfiltered water directly from the Columbia river. It is the most radioactive river in North America within that reservation. Yes, you will alter your DNA, but you probably will get cancer and not be long for this world. Also, if the federalies want you bad enough, they will track you down with thier JTTF, (Joint Terrorism Task Force), and your ass will be in Guantanamo Bay so fast your head would spin. Hence my above post. The federalies are above the law. They could blow your head off with a 40MM howitzer, and probably make a declared cause of death being a "massive stroke" stick. I have absolutly no trust for the federalies. As soon as it is convenient to forward thier agenda, I will probably end up with my head on a pike. The NaZi party had the Reichstag, and Gestapo to defend the Fatherland; the DemoPublican party has 9/11 and the DHS to defend the Homeland.

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"You are either with us or against us."
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“Homeland security is not a temporary measure for the current crisis, but will become permanent in American life. I think of it as the normalcy.”
--VP Dick Cheney statement- 2001.

“An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”
--Adolf Hitler, 1934, proposing creation of the Gestapo for "homeland security" in Nazi Germany.

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Re: Pentagon Lays Plans for Martial Law

Unread postby pilferage » Sun 28 Aug 2005, 03:09:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '1'). "What if..." is a game for children, and simple minds. Since the federalies are obviously not childern, that leaves only one option, dosen't it?
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Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby LadyRuby » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 23:50:03

Another optimist: Gore Vidal, Octocontrarian $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.').. there have been things unimaginable to me and most Americans--that we would have a government that is absolutely in your face to every country on earth. We have insulted everybody. ... Yes, I do believe it is breaking up. And the indictment of DeLay would not have happened had there not been two hurricanes, which dramatized to everybody in the United States that we don't have a government. And to the extent we do have one it is not only corrupt but a menace to other countries, to our liberties, to our Bill of Rights.
... Martial law, that's next. Bush is like a plane of glass. You can see all the worms turning around in his head at any moment. The first giveaway of what's on his mind--or the junta's mind.

Q: The junta being...?
Cheney, who runs everything, I suspect. And a few other serious operators. Anyway, I first noticed this was on their mind when Bush finally woke up to the fact that the hurricanes were not going to be good PR for him. And he starts to think friends of his are going to be running in '08. So what's the first thing he does? The first thing on the mind of a dictator? He gets the National Guard away from the governors. The Guard is under the governors, but Bush is always saying, Let's turn it over to the military. This is what's on their mind. Under military control.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby rogerhb » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 23:54:44

Personally I prefer the term "Marshal Law" rather than "Martial Law". The latter makes me think of Kung Fu movies.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby LadyRuby » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 00:12:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'P')ersonally I prefer the term "Marshal Law" rather than "Martial Law". The latter makes me think of Kung Fu movies.
I think I'd prefer Martian Law to our current regime.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby OilsNotWell » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 00:44:46

I thought it referred to those islands by the Philipines...the Marshalls...

Gee, all this talk about Marcia Law got me thinking about a Brady Bunch episode...

Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! (wav)

I'm sick of it! :roll: Why not Cindy Law, hmm.....?
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby rogerhb » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 00:49:08

In "Carry on Cowboy", Jim Dale's character's surname was Marshall, so obviously he ended up as the town sheriff.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 01:13:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')artial law, that's next. Bush is like a plane of glass. You can see all the worms turning around in his head at any moment. The first giveaway of what's on his mind--or the junta's mind.
Maybe not. The junta would need another big domestic terror hit to justify martial law. And maybe it just won't happen.
Maybe the Islamics are just giggling to death on how well we are destroying the US all by ourselves. A few little concocted threats here and there to keep the paranoia at a high level.

Remember the Twilight Zone episode "Monsters on Maple Street"? All the aliens had to do was start switching the power on and off. It wasn't long before Presto.....the humans were torching and crucifying each other.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby parainwater » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 01:24:43

I propose all second amendment believers should start forming a constitutional militia in order to fight in the second American revolution; and should we prevail we will rename our country and call it the CSA "Constitutional States of America." We will overhaul the government and make it as corruption proof as we possibly can.
Words like life, liberty, freedom and patriotism will be more than just empty dogma to mask despotism. We will have responsibility and acountability nationwide in order to preserve the humanistic ideals that our nation was originally founded upon.
Don't tell me, I already know, I am just fantasizing.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby abelardlindsay » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 01:29:43

Gore Vidal, Octocontrarian $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e have insulted everybody.

What about the Israelis?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')artial law, that's next. Bush is like a plane of glass. You can see all the worms turning around in his head at any moment. The first giveaway of what's on his mind--or the junta's mind.

Ha Ha ! This guy is delusional!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')heney, who runs everything, I suspect. And a few other serious operators. Anyway, I first noticed this was on their mind when Bush finally woke up to the fact that the hurricanes were not going to be good PR for him. And he starts to think friends of his are going to be running in '08. So what's the first thing he does? The first thing on the mind of a dictator? He gets the National Guard away from the governors. The Guard is under the governors, but Bush is always saying, Let's turn it over to the military. This is what's on their mind. Under military control.

This is so dumb. The guy makes Lyndon La Rouche almost look sane.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby MicroHydro » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 02:23:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('parainwater', 'I') propose all second amendment believers should start forming a constitutional militia in order to fight in the second American revolution; and should we prevail we will rename our country and call it the CSA "Constitutional States of America." We will overhaul the government and make it as corruption proof as we possibly can. Words like life, liberty, freedom and patriotism will be more than just empty dogma to mask despotism. We will have responsibility and acountability nationwide in order to preserve the humanistic ideals that our nation was originally founded upon. Dont tell me, I already know, I am just fantasizing.
It may come to that in the next 15 years, but not so soon.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby Doly » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 07:15:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MicroHydro', 'I')t may come to that in the next 15 years, but not so soon.
The only time there was something like a revolution in the States was the American Civil War, and it was led by the president.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 11:33:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DesertBear2', 'M')aybe the Islamics are just giggling to death on how well we are destroying the US all by ourselves. A few little concocted threats here and there to keep the paranoia at a high level.
Osama bin Laden told us plainly that our freedom would be suspended, but did not say who would do it.
"America will never taste security and safety unless we feel security and safety in our lands and in Palestine," he said.

"They will not feel safe until the troops of the United States of America withdraw from the Muslim holy places." David Hume wrote that "it is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once." This phenomenon of gradually constricted freedom is nearly imperceivable to most people, just as a lobster doesn't notice being cooked in increasingly heated water. Still, the end result is the same.

In conducting a retaliation against the United States government for its support of Israel and immoral behavior in the Middle East, Osama bin Laden has masterfully provoked the U.S. to destroy the supposed freedom it claims as its distinguishing factor among nations. Though not a noble or respectable act, his fulfilled prophecy demonstrates a profound understanding of how America really works.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby Daculling » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 13:00:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('parainwater', 'I') propose all second amendment believers should start forming a constitutional militia in order to fight in the second American revolution; and should we prevail we will rename our country and call it the CSA "Constitutional States of America." We will overhaul the government and make it as corruption proof as we possibly can. Words like life, liberty, freedom and patriotism will be more than just empty dogma to mask despotism. We will have responsibility and acountability nationwide in order to preserve the humanistic ideals that our nation was originally founded upon. Dont tell me, I already know, I am just fantasizing.

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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 13:30:44

I have a great idea for a car bumper sticker: "Charge me with sedition and get a bullet between the eyes."

Gore Vidal is on to something. This shitstorm has been brewing since the great depression and it may be starting to culminate with the corporations seeking to maintain their control after finally having got their coup, when they first attempted to oust the authoritarian Rooseveldt because he went against their corporatist policies(despite his fascist tendacies otherwise), to the time they sought to quell dissent in the 60s and keep the tax money flowing to their pockets through Vietnam, to stalling development of alternative energy post Carter to maintain dominance over the energy market(oil), through Reagan's crooked era of corporate welfare, through the complacency of the Clinton years having eroded the sovereignty of this nation through their 'free trade' legislation, to again stalling alternative energy as peak oil mounts(greater the crisis, higher the price, greater the revenue), and now in the Bush years its all mounting against them with another illegal war, many lies, and treason in the highest sections of the government they bought.

Marshall law? It may be coming quite soon.

Corporations have repeatedly killed people in other nations to maximize profits, whether it was Chevron and Shell hiring mercenaries to slaughter Nigerian villages to take their land, Exxon and others setting up the whole Shah of Iran incident, Lockheed Martin and Boeing pushing for an unconstitutional war in Iraq that murdered over 120,000 innocent civilians, various transnational corporations using the U.S. government to install a coup against a democratically elected president in Chile. The list goes on. It's only a matter of time before these same companies start killing Americans with bullets, whether on their own dollar or through the government. The latter may have already started even.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby gary_malcolm » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 13:36:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('abelardlindsay', ' ')link The guy make Lyndon La Rouche almost look sane.
Once more a Know-Nothing internet nard quoting 'The Nation'. Shocking!
AL - Your comments and criticism of Vidal would be worth more if we had a little background. Have you read his work? Do you know that he is a writer?
Selected bibliography:
* Williwaw, 1946
* In a Yellow Wood, 1947
* City and the Pillar, 1948
* The Season of Comfort, 1949
* Dark Green, Bright Red, 1950
* A Search for the King, 1950
* The Judgement of Paris, 1953
* Messiah, 1955
* Visit to a Small Planet, 1955
* The Catered Affair, 1956 (film script)
* The Left-Handed Gun (teleplay basis only)
* I Accuse!, 1958 (film script - based on Dreyfus affair, see Emile Zola)
* A Thirsty Evil, 1958
* The Scapegoat, 1959 (film script - based on novel by Daphne du Maurier)
* Suddenly Last Summer, 1959 (script, film dir. by Joseph L. Mankiewicz, starring Elizabeth Taylor, Katherine Hepburn, Montgomery Clift, based on Tennessee Willams's play)
* The Best Man, 1960 (play)
* Rocking the Boat, 1962
* On the March to the Sea, 1962 (play)
* Romulus, 1963 (play)
* Rocking the Boat, 1963
* Julian, 1964
* Is Paris Burning?, 1966 (script with Francis Ford Coppola, film dir. by Rene Clement, based on international bestseller Paris, brule-t-il? by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre)
* Washington D.C., 1967
* Sex, Death, and Money, 1968
* Myra Breckinridge, 1968 - suom. Myra
* Reflections upon a Sinking Ship, 1969
* The Last of the Mobile Hotshots, 1969 (also: Blood Kin, film script, dir. by Sidney Lumet, based on Tennessee Williams's play)
* Myra Breckinridge, 1970 (novel basis only)
* Two Sisters, 1970
* Homage to Daniel Shays, 1972
* An Evening with Richard Nixon, 1972
* Burr, 1974
* Collected Essays, 1974
* Great American Families, 1975 (with others)
* Matters of Fact and Fiction, 1977
* Caligula, 1977 (film script)
* Kalki, 1978
* Sex is Politics and Vice Versa, 1979
* Creation, 1980
* The Second American Revolution, 1982
* Duluth, 1983
* Pink Triangle and Yellow Star, 1982
* Lincoln, 1984
* Empire, 1987
* At Home, 1988
* Armageddon? 1987
* Hollywood, 1989
* A View from the Diners Club, 1991
* Screening History, 1992
* Live from Golgatha, 1992
* Screening History, 1993
* United States: Essays 1952-1992, 1993
* Palimpsest, 1995
* The Smithsonian Institution, 1998
* Gore Vidal Sexually Speaking, 1999 (ed. by Donald Weise)
* The Essential Gore Vidal, 1999 (ed. by Fred Kaplan)
* The Golden Age, 2000
* The Last Empire, 2001
* Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace, 2002
* Dreaming War: Blood for Oil and the Cheney-Bush Junta, 2002
* Inventing a Nation, 2003
You really should have more humility that to haphazardly attack the opinions of those whose eloquence and track record so blantantly outshine yours as to make you look like the scrounging little worm you probably are.
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby NEOPO » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 14:02:39

Yes be very careful. "An eye is upon us staring straight down and keenly through"

Hmmm who said what Osama said about 220 years ago??
Oh thats right - the founder of the democratic party - none other then Thomas Jefferson. "None are free unless all are free and no ones rights are safe unless all rights are safe" paraquote cause I am mentally lazy today 8)
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Re: Gore Vidal: Martial Law next in U.S.

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 14:22:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gary_malcolm', '.').. You really should have more humility that to haphazardly attack the opinions of those whose eloquence and track record so blantantly outshine yours as to make you look like the scrounging little worm you probably are. G

Oh, come on Gary. Just because a man is eloquent and talented to the point of genius (which I think Vidal is), he's no prophet or even an accurate guesser of the political future of the US. He was living in Rome and saying similar things about the US back in the 1960s and 70s during the Vietnam War era. He was wrong then and will probably be wrong this time as well.

He's very talented and a major iconoclast but he's also a perverse neurotic drunk, plagued by all the weaknesses of any human. His obvious talent does not place him above criticism.
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