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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 03:11:53

It's been 630,000 years since Yellowstone erupted. Guess what, the average is 600,000 years between eruptions. Yellowstone, in Wyoming, is the world's only mantle plume under a continent. When it blows it covers the Earth for six years in a cloud of dust that won't let the sunlight in. It covers the US in a pyroclastic cloud that kills everything. Then nothing will grow. We're talking multitudes greater than Mt St Helens, which is miniscule by comparison. It's been 11,000 years since the last ice age. Another one is due. Viruses and bacteria are surpassing our abilities to develop cures. Our time is numbered and we are doomed. Have a nice day.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 03:28:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')t's been 630,000 years since Yellowstone erupted. Guess what, the average is 600,000 years between eruptions. Yellowstone, in Wyoming, is the world's only mantle plume under a continent. When it blows it covers the Earth for six years in a cloud of dust that won't let the sunlight in. It covers the US in a pyroclastic cloud that kills everything. Then nothing will grow. We're talking multitudes greater than Mt St Helens, which is miniscule by comparison. It's been 11,000 years since the last ice age. Another one is due. Viruses and bacteria are surpassing our abilities to develop cures. Our time is numbered and we are doomed. Have a nice day.


Shiny.

Don't wet yourself.

What's the range of years though? That's important too! (+/- 100,000 years can easily mean we have tons of time)

Look on the bright-side of things... humans won't kill ourselves in about the million ways we can.. and are headed to!
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 03:30:55

Hey UIUC student, I have a question for you - do you know what a mantle plume is?
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby Free » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 03:38:10

Lol, thanks to cheer me up Penultimate! :-D :(

But I really think it doesn't make sense to think about possible apocalyptic scenarios which we can't influence. We can't prevent Yellowstone from exploding, can we? And if there is a killer virus, well it will find its way. What was the Shakespeare quote again about that guy who is afraid from something and dies a thousand deaths before he actually dies?

The reason I worry so much about Peak Oil is because it is in our hands how we handle this potential desaster. That we race towards the wall but maybe can stomp on the brakes, dodge the wall, or crash through it and survive. Don't mind things you can't influence. Embrace death. Be a samurai, be ready to die in every moment of your life.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby evilmonkeyspanker » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 04:16:30

Well, let me think here... there has been no real siesmic activity in that area for a good long while... I would say it won't blow in our lifetime.

By then, GWB and co will have already figured out how to kill us all by then :roll:
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 04:20:18

It doesnt cover the whole Earth.
The dust cloud has been recorded as far as the Gulf though, which means pretty much 3/4 of America is gonna be pretty dusty and overcast.

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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 05:34:40

Ok we've got all these thing to worry about now.

1. Bankrupy & Financial Meltdown
2. Volcano's blowing up in Yellowstone
3. PeakOil
4. Global Warming
5. Earth Pole Shift
6. Asteriods inpacking the earth
7. Bird Flu, Aids and other superviruses
8. Nuclear War
9. Over population
10. Pollution
11. Ozone Holes
12. Terrorist Attacts
13. Solar Flares

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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 05:54:37

Opps forgot EarthQuakes, just saw the news, thousands have died in India, Pakistan and other places, apparently it was a BIG ONE.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby medicvet » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 06:01:12

7.6, and they don't build their building to withstand earthquakes like they do in Cali, which is overdue for their 'big one' as well. My prayers going out to all in that region. :(


but if you want to go to a site with some pretty neat 'end of the world' scenarios..go here:

http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby skiwi » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 06:09:16

Yeah the only drawback to where I am. I'm almost sitting on it 8O

FLASHBACK

Big South Island quake 'overdue'
NZ Herald Monday October 25, 2004
The latest study of movements on the South Island's Alpine Fault has found new evidence that a devastating earthquake could strike any day. Recent research shows the fault has ruptured four times in the past 900 years, most recently in about 1717, when an earthquake of at least eight on the Richter scale snapped trees halfway up their trunks and set off massive landslides throughout the Southern Alps. Geologists have also found evidence of similar-sized or larger earthquakes from Alpine Fault movements in about 1620, 1450 and 1100.

Given those figures, the chance of a major South Island earthquake increases every day, and may already be more than 30 years overdue.
The Alpine Fault is one of the world's most prominent geological features. Visible from space, it runs for about 600km up the spine of the island on the western edge of the Alps, marking the boundary of the Pacific and Australian Plates.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 11:55:22

Oh, I forgot one. There was a asteroid once that landed on Iowa. It hit the atmosphere and then made it down in one second. The air couldn't move aside and was heated to 11,000 degrees Kelvin. Many orders of magnitude bigger than all the hydrogen bombs in existence. And as far as big eathquakes go, say goodbye to Tokyo one of these days. It sits on the boundary of three tectonic plates.
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Unread postby holmes » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 14:43:21

hey PM this is true. Hopefully it just incinerates the biggest cities. :lol:
cleans house. that wont happen. but we can only dream. Ma earth is definately gearing up to rid itself of the virus. bad part is most lifeforms will get axed first. But hey the earth is not "good" enough for us. we want the stars. Humans are dumb fucks for sure. I just watched kurt vonnegut on OPB last night. very interesting guy. a free thinker!
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 15:07:39

Oh sure, there are plenty of things just waiting to kill us off. So what? Can't do anything about it.

Worry about things you have some control over.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 19:50:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'I')t doesnt cover the whole Earth.
The dust cloud has been recorded as far as the Gulf though, which means pretty much 3/4 of America is gonna be pretty dusty and overcast.

Buy extra air filters. For the car, for the house and for yourself too.


Actually, it has potential to push enough pulvorized rock in to the stratisphere to block out the sun worldwide (or at least northern hemisphere-wide) for a year or two before it filters out. But its the sulphur gasses that will be added to the stratisphere with the dust that will block the sun (reflects it back into space) for up to 7 years that is the real worry.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby bobcousins » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 20:41:04

The number of natural disasters awaiting around the corner is quite surprising, but only because we take such a narrow view of history. We remember some events like Krakatoa, but go much before that and not much is recorded. There is evidence of previous volcanic events recorded in journals made by monks - no one else was doing much writing. Go back further and we only have mythical tales which could be construed as real natural disasters - Atlantis, Noah's flood, among others. We have a couple of thousand years in badly recorded history. Really an eyeblink in terms of geological time.

The difference is that then the population density was a lot lower. Technically there is something we could do about Yellowstone - evacuate North America. That's not gonna happen! But it is only a question of time before one of these big events occur, and it is going to make PO look like a rain shower at a tea party.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby lowem » Sat 08 Oct 2005, 21:35:30

Plenty of potential ELE's, take your pick : Yellowstone (supervolcano), Armageddon (asteroid), Toba (supervolcano), gray goo (runaway nanotech), SkyNet (runaway AI) and don't forget the best one - "your planet is scheduled for demolition for the Pan-Galactic Highway".
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 10 Oct 2005, 19:00:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')To a first approximation" as David Raup of the University of Chicago likes to say, "all species are extinct." For complex organisms, the average lifespan of a species is only about four million years - roughly about where we are now.


from Bill Bryson's A Short History Of Nearly Everything
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 10 Oct 2005, 19:44:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', ' ')We remember some events like Krakatoa, but go much before that and not much is recorded.
Interesting thing about Krakatoa, not only did it make for a miserable growing season in 1816, but it caused the amazing sunsets that were left to posterity by the artist Joseph Turner. But Krakatoa wasn't a 'supervolcano'. The caldera from the last Yellowstone eruption is 40 miles across. The record is not in the human literature, but the caldera is still there, for scientists to unravel.
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 11 Oct 2005, 02:21:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukat', 'O')k we've got all these thing to worry about now.

1. Bankrupy & Financial Meltdown
2. Volcano's blowing up in Yellowstone
3. PeakOil
4. Global Warming
5. Earth Pole Shift
6. Asteriods inpacking the earth
7. Bird Flu, Aids and other superviruses
8. Nuclear War
9. Over population
10. Pollution
11. Ozone Holes
12. Terrorist Attacts
13. Solar Flares

We need to get the news out to everyone [smilie=director.gif]
Have you forgotten hurricanes already? Short attention span. :cry:
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Re: Gloomy News

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 11 Oct 2005, 02:50:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukat', 'O')k we've got all these thing to worry about now.

1. Bankrupy & Financial Meltdown
2. Volcano's blowing up in Yellowstone
3. PeakOil
4. Global Warming
5. Earth Pole Shift
6. Asteriods inpacking the earth
7. Bird Flu, Aids and other superviruses
8. Nuclear War
9. Over population
10. Pollution
11. Ozone Holes
12. Terrorist Attacts
13. Solar Flares

We need to get the news out to everyone [smilie=director.gif]
Have you forgotten hurricanes already? Short attention span. :cry:
How about 'hypercanes':

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ypercanes is a speculative attempt to explain mass species extinctions 245 million years ago. Computer models showed that continent-sized super-storms with winds averaging 600 kilometres per hour could be produced if oceans warmed to an incredible 45 to 50 degrees C. Such temperatures are impossible today barring a massive meteor strike or gigantic underwater volcano eruption.
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