[Colorado-Valley]

The BRIC alliance has been quietly forming over the past several years to counter the U.S. superpower state that is the goals of the neocons.

BRIC -- Russia, China, India and Brazil.

Also added to this alliance will be Venezuela and Iran. In the future, perhaps Bolivia and Mexico.

These countries comprise most of the world's population, as well as a lot of its energy resources.

It would be fun watching the U.S. invade and attempt to occupy all these countries.

[Eli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')It would be fun watching the U.S. invade and attempt to occupy all these countries.

[Colorado-Valley]

I was hoping to watch from a safe distance. Maybe Mars.

[Rickenbacker]

If this has already been posted then delete this, however a quick search didnt find it.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/econom ... t_scam.htm

Should probably go on front page, will spark debate.

[Armageddon]

i like jones, but hes missing the boat about po. hes way off base.

[Rickenbacker]

Yeah seems to be regurgitating arguments Ive seen efficiently decimat4ed in these forums - i.e. saudi's reassuring BS, the 'abiotic' BS etc. Thats the thing about Jones, he's a damn good muckraker, and I'm pretty sure he's on to something with the whole NWO talk, but he does use any evidence, however arguable, to support his world view. Even if 5% of what he says is objectively true then were in a pretty f**ked up world, but I'd agree that I think he's off on this one.

Havent listened to that hour audio clip yet though...

[aahala]

The monthly meeting of the International Oil Big Wig Conspirators shall now come to order. Those that are hiding peakoil from the public, in order to increase their
profit and power, please sit on the left side of the room.

Those that are promoting the idea of peakoil (and no such concept really
exists), in order to increase their profit and power, please sit on the right
side of the room. As the membership has been about equally divided, and all members
have chosen their seats, meeting adjourned till next month.

[some_guy282]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'i') like jones, but hes missing the boat about po. hes way off base.

[bobcousins]

The guy's a complete idiot, with a website, of which there are many nowadays. Don't waste any time with him. Techinally known as wacko conspiracy nutjob.

And what sort of underground reporting is it that seeks to expose a high level scam by quoting official news sources? There is more of interest to be found in the drool of an infant than by reading his drivel.

[gnm]

Poor Alex, hes got some good points but he is way too overzealous about connecting the dots... And I think hes completely wrong about oil. Resources deplete. Some people just can't handle the implications... So they look for someone to blame.

Never attribute to conspiracy what can be easily explained by incompetence.

-G

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rickenbacker', 'I')f this has already been posted then delete this, however a quick search didnt find it. link Should probably go on front page, will spark debate.

[Rickenbacker]

Bob, overharsh I think. Like I said, Al is a bit blikered sometimes, but is also a quality political muckraker, and I regularly check his site out as most of what is put there links to major news sources, just like the front age of this site, though this site is more happy to show opposing views! (Al does occasionaly, but never without his own rebuke)

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!

[Rickenbacker]

Haha nuff said Matt.

I believe the internet terminology is PWNED.

[EnemyCombatant]

First of all, I'm a big AJ fan, although I disagree with 30% of his theories.
He's a Christian and I'm a heretic, but he still is on target especially regarding 911.

I am not 100% convinced of peak oil. But does it matter. Peak Oil or not, the powers that be are up to something.

So I recommend that we don't get bogged down in a PO/PO Conspiracy debate. In the big picture, it just doesn't matter.

Rather there is a scarcity or an aritifical scarcity, the elites want a NWO. This is what we should be concerned about.

[Rickenbacker]

Yeah not sure how organised the NWO stuff is, but there does seem to be a united attempt by western (for 'western' read 'full of freemason') countries to establish tighter militarised big brother style control over the populace, using self perpetuated terror attacks and standard fear tactics to weaken the public resolve. The thing Im confised about is whether this is a by product of the corrupt business dealings of the wealthy, or part of some 'grand plan' in the 'great game'.

Regardless of the incredible amount of pwer over media and all aspects of government of the elite, I think the PO theory is too widespread to be a clever set-up. It involves too many protagonists who would be unlikely connectied with the elites, and has been a determined grassroots effort which has slowly but surely broken into mainstream opinion because it is a cohesive, compelling argument, rather than a tenuous, wishy wash 'conspiracy theory' along the lines of Ickes space lizards. It has arisen from all the wrong sources to be a NWO design, surely if they wanted it pushed on the populace they would have used Murdoch to spread the word rather than apocalyptic radical lefties!!!

[Hegel]

Ah, Mr. Jones and the evil hegelian dialectic again. He's doing a great job presenting the hidden Antithesis to the hood-winked masses and by doing so he instantly became an agent of the very system he despises so much.

I can see his point regarding a 'conspiracy', but still think he's full of s**t.

[bobcousins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'F')irst of all, I'm a big AJ fan, although I disagree with 30% of his theories. He's a Christian and I'm a heretic, but he still is on target especially regarding 911.
I am not 100% convinced of peak oil. But does it matter. Peak Oil or not, the powers that be are up to something. So I recommend that we don't get bogged down in a PO/PO Conspiracy debate. In the big picture, it just doesn't matter. Rather there is a scarcity or an aritifical scarcity, the elites want a NWO. This is what we should be concerned about.

[EnemyCombatant]

Look, I really believe AJ is sincere.

Me, personally, I like to keep an open mind on everything. I don't believe any one or group of conspiracy theories. However, I do collect all of the ideas and formulate my own opinions. I don't believe in PO, nor do I believe in the PO conspiracy. But I do believe the truth is somewhere in between. The same with the bird flu. Would the goverment use the bird flu to take away more of our civil liberties? Probably. They have a precedence. Yet, I am open minded to other theories.

I'd be the first to admit that I may be wrong on any subject. For me, nothing is a religion, it's a search for the truth. I can't find the truth if I don't listen to all of the information.

Bob, you should do the same. It's not best to outright reject other theories. It's best to listen to as many theories as possible and then you can start to formulate your own unique ideas and opinions.

I have come to a very unique opinion on the 'big picture'.

[skiwi]

EnemyCombatant

Ditto

[Locutionist]

Alex Jones is a total F-ing idiot. His supposed "reports" are repetitions of rumor, with no attribution, or attributed to anonymous sources, or secret documents, or are secret revelations from the little man who lives in the light socket, or god-knows-what, that are absolutely unverifiable by anyone, anywhere. I suppose he thinks that makes him look like an insider, but in fact it speaks volumes about how much crap he makes up out of hte clear blue sky.

Every time you see Alex Jones (or anyone) say, "sources told me," without giving any names, or corroborating statements or documents, figure on it being a straight-up lie.

When Gary Webb committed suicide last year, Jones had posted a "report" at prinsonplanet repeating rumors that people had been climbing up the outside of Webb's building to break into his apartment, and other related gossip. Jones failed to make even a single phone call to verify whether this could possibly be real . . . turns out, Webb was living in a single-story house at the time.

That is not "reporting." That is not "muckraking." That is total irresponsibility and totally lazy. Alex Jones will surely go to hades for his sins, as well he should.

-Paula