[PenultimateManStanding]

I can't help feeling that we're about to experience more than we can handle. I don't know when but I'm not real confident. The rat race has bred people who will lose their minds when reality takes it's toll.

[k_semler]

Quite a bit of people on FS have this type of feeling too. Does your feeling by any chance involve usurpations upon natural liberties, or a TSHTF scenario?

[medicvet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') can't help feeling that we're about to experience more than we can handle. I don't know when but I'm not real confident. The rat race has bred people who will lose their minds when reality takes it's toll.

[medicvet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'Q')uite a bit of people on FS have this type of feeling too. Does your feeling by any chance involve usurpations upon natural liberties, or a TSHTF scenario?

[k_semler]

A post that I made on FS that is highly applicable to Medicvet's latest post:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Myself on Frugal Squirrel', 'T')he problem with a "line in the sand" is that it is just that. It is constantly changing and moving with even the slightest breeze. There will never be a massive uprising or open rebellion. We are just like the Jews in occupied Europe. We as a people hope that by complying with the new orders, and not making a fuss about it, we will be looked upon as "good citizens" and ignored. In reality, they are using our passive actions to further justify the further encrochment of liberty. More rights have been limited and eventually taken by slow but deliberate action, rather than abrupt and unplanned action. Every time another unconstitutional law or ruling is passed, there is just the faintest hint of disharmony. Even when it is so impacting as emminent domain.

On June 23, 2005, the right for a citizen of the United States to own property was forever undermined by the SCOTUS. Do you hear any rebellions or uprisings caused by this ruling? I sure haven't. In fact, the reaction has been opposite. The people have come to accept it with hardly a whisper of resistance. The same has been true in the past, and the same shall occur in the future. So far, we as a people have not rebelled against anything since 1861, so why should we expect a future generation to? I honestly don't expect anything more than what this generation has done. Surrender all freedoms willingly in the name of protecting against a foriegn enemy, but actually undermining the very principals upon which this nation was founded.

What logic is there in GWB saying "The terrorists hate us because of our freedoms.", and then proceeding to eliminate the freedoms that the terrorists "hate us" for? Seems like nothing but capitulation to the globalist agenda to me.

My only hope is the Thomas Jefforson quote. "...There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.... That would put the next rebellion at around 2011 at the very latest. God willing, Mr. Jefforson is right. It is the only hope for restoration of a Constitutional Republic.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') can't help feeling that we're about to experience more than we can handle. I don't know when but I'm not real confident. The rat race has bred people who will lose their minds when reality takes it's toll.

[RonMN]

Unknowns are always scary, especially when the unknown is our future. I've been doing a little self examining lately (i've been having a feeling of dread myself) and i found that what i'm feeling is the same as when i was 18 & moved out of my parants house.

about all ya can really do is keep your eyes & ears open, & try to be the voice of reason when-ever you can...if that doesn't work...load the 12 guage

[NEOPO]

yeah and as my Dad always said "Stop being a pussy!"

I have been feeling this also - things are occuring alittle too quickly for my "po reality".
As if the basic knowledge of PO isnt enough we have katrina/rita and all the news story that pertain to PO floating about.
We should be happy that the issue is being address by governments and people alike.

I am with Pops believing that knowledge is power!!!
Our group of 4 have decided to divide this and each learn something different.
Of course we all need to know pretty much everything yet there is only so much extra space in our brains - we will learn from each other over time.

Hope springs eternal

[Aaron]

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[GreyZone]

Well said, Aaron, and I agree completely. Natural selection did not select us for our ability to hold hands and sing kumbaya. Natural selection chose us because we were the meanest, baddest, cruelest, most efficient hunters on the surface of the planet, bar none. And unlike most other species, we will even hunt our own kind.

Once upon a time I used to tell people that there are no "aliens" or "predators" out there in the universe. We are those things and if we ever managed to get off planet, any other species that ran into us would likely crap in their spacesuits. However, it seems nature is about to try to confine us to this single dust mote in a far corner of the galaxy. That may actually be a good thing for the rest of the universe but it still leaves us dealing with one another.

What I find mind-boggling is that once someone chooses to prepare, that they choose to prepare for some cuddly soft landing. This is equivalent to hurricane alley people building homes for 100 mph winds and when asked about 150 mph winds or 175 mph winds, they smile and tell you it will never get that bad. The guy who builds for the worst case is not going to be bothered by an intermediate case. On the other hand, the person who prepares for an intermediate peak oil case is likely to be rudely and disappointingly surprised by whatever curve balls peak oil actually does throw our way.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

Thanks Aaron for the quivalent of a kick in the butt. Eloquently said grey zone.

[EdF]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GreyZone', '.').. However, it seems nature is about to try to confine us to this single dust mote in a far corner of the galaxy. That may actually be a good thing for the rest of the universe but it still leaves us dealing with one another...

[Ludi]

Humans are social primates and the most successful social primates are those that get along the best with the others in their group. Outcasts generally die.

So if getting along with your group means holding hands and singing kumbaya, better get with the program.

Then you can all go beat the crap out of the folks who are trying to steal your group's stuff.

[drew]

Scared too, but there is little any of us can do on a macro scale. Get informed, become adaptable, take some of pop's advice (to what ever degree you see fit).
I think an economic crunch (several??) will play out first, causing demand destruction, and backing of PO for a few years, maybe a decade. Remember, there was a huge drop in demand caused by 79 iranian rev, and subsequent recession. Aaron, (dark blog btw) correct me if I'm wrong, but 67 bbpd to mid fifties, not coming back to 67 till 1985??

This will buy a lot of time.

Scared, but long term scared.

Short term scared is 'will I have a job next year??'

Drew

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')aron, (dark blog btw) correct me if I'm wrong, but 67 bbpd to mid fifties, not coming back to 67 till 1985??

[backstop]

Aaron -

here's what would have been posted in response to your neo-darwinian blog,
(if the system had accepted any of the passwords I've had to use on the PO site).

Aaron -

shouldn't that be

"And the Victor gets to rear spoiled brats, who over-reach and collapse the despotism" ?

Also, your apparently simplistic assumptions about human nature appear to ignore the phsychotoxic impacts of a variety of malign influences on human awareness and conduct,
including the thalates et al, fluoride, fossil alchohols, and, especially, lead, amongst various others.

Am puzzled by your unusually emotive critique of those you differ with.

Could you clarify ?

regards,

Backstop

[NEOPO]

A Ray of Sunshine

Hope springs eternal... Man is basically good at heart, and given the opportunity and the means, will help their brothers.

Perhaps you have never helped your "brother" but let me tell ya BROTHER..... I have and will probably continue to do so.
At least those who do not refer to me as a Lemming!
With love and kindness, a little compassion, and the guidance of a heavenly father... we can make it.

Together.

Subtract the "heavenly father" bit and yeah...thats why we are all here isnt it? My mom, your mom... could have simply aborted our solar powered shitting machine asses!!!


ARE YOU LEMMINGS REALLY THAT FUCKING STUPID?

People are little more than the latest variation on a very old theme.

Evolution dictates the terms, where strength & domination are rewarded by the only real truth.

The Outcome.

The universe hates you, & is trying to kill you. And here's the kicker... in the end, it will succeed.

So take your soft, bunny rabbit, eco-bullshit ,tree hugging fantasy & shove it up your ass.

To the victor go the spoils...

The same as it ever was.

Why should I expect much more then this........name calling
Universe "hates"???? bunny rabbit ass???
Sounds like someone hasnt had their nappy nap today
Its not that I expect more from a Texan!!!
The strong help the weak - the strong help the comely - the smart help the stupid - perhaps thats why some of us are here
From this I deduce that you:
1. have no hope
2. have children but they prefer to live with their mom
3. masturbate excessively while blogging
4. will completely crack when global realization of PO is upon us!!!!
5. should not have been conceived of let alone have been BORN thus you are a mistake and should terminate yourself post haste with a bullet to the head on top of a plastic throw in the bathtub so the clean up is easier

I am a survivor and survivors dont give up hope.
From your "call" I gather you are a different creature all together!

[Aaron]

Pfffttt...

Nice Rant.

I didn't design the system folks... just making observations.

The vast majority of your fellow humans are selfish & shallow, and won't hesitate to exploit you given the chance. A small minority of folks think bigger thoughts, and lead truly community-oriented lives.

This system works when your society is rich & affluent.

Just take a gander sometime at what poverty does to this equation.

All I'm saying, is what should be obvious to everyone, (with the exception perhaps of the bathroom humor crowd), that humanity has a violent, brutal past & continues to follow this pattern today.

If you mean that perhaps enough people might decide to band together and change this ancient practice of domination through force... I hope you're right.

I really do.

But it seems pretty unlikely to me...

As far as my own ideology goes, I do come from the "justice for all" and "save the world" mindset. (I volunteer on a peakoil board after all).

So despite my grim outlook on our future, I believe we still must try and find ways to lessen the impact.

But I'm pretty sure that there are enough people who don't feel as I do, to make my efforts inconsequential. But still we must try...

I'll also add that I think anyone that believes that hydrocarbon depletion won't cause violent conflict, is not paying attention... it's happening now.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')And the Victor gets to rear spoiled brats, who over-reach and collapse the despotism" ?

[skyemoor]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '
')I didn't design the system folks... just making observations.