[Cynus]

Maybe you should e-mail your representative about this:

The bill HR 3824 is the work of Representative Richard Pombo (R-CA), chair of the House Resources Committee and Congress's greatest opponent of endangered species protections. Representative Pombo has long represented the interests of developers and the oil and mining industries.

The bill would be a terrible blow to endangered species, including completely removing all requirements to protect endangered species habitat.

HR 3824 would:

* Completely repeal protections for endangered species critical habitat

* Allow political appointees - such as Secretary of Interior Gale Norton - instead of scientists, to determine what constitutes the best available science

* Assure that recovery efforts are not implemented, by making recovery plans voluntary

* Exempts federal actions from having to go through independent review to ensure that they do not jeopardize endangered species

* Bankrupt the endangered species program by forcing the Fish and Wildlife Service to pay developers not to violate the law.

HR 3824 passed out of the House Resources Committee last Thursday on a 26-12 vote. It now heads to the full House this week for a vote. If it passes the House, it then heads to the Senate.

You can send a pre-written e-mail to your rep from:
https://secure2.convio.net/dow/site/Adv ... u61.app20a

[Ludi]

Like my legislators give a rat's behind what I think!

[lateStarter]

Your prewritten email will be responded to by a low-level intern/twit sending you a prewritten response thanking you for your concern about topic 'X'. And, thanking you for exercising your right to participate in the world's greatest democracy. Next comes the 'Delete' key.

[Specop_007]

You mean we'll finally be able to get to all that oil under a couple of seals asses?!

GOOD!

Goddamn environwackos have done quite enough to put the brakes on development. Bout damn time for something like this.

[Cynus]

Spec's right, developers haven't been able to develop anything in the last 20 years, the animals own it all now! Fast food restaurants, housing subdivisions, car dealerships, condo complexes, strip malls, I haven't seen any of those built since gas was 5 cents a gallon. It's all animals now! We need a developer protection act to allow these poor souls a chance to make a modest living.

Sometimes Spec's right-wing tendencies drive me nuts, but since I found out he's really Edward Abbey at heart, he's OK with me.

[holmes]

http://www.numbersusa.com/index

Yeah 2.2+ million acres a year loss of land. Yeah its all animals now
But we forgot one thing: no space for humanoids. The flesh of human is starting to smell real good. Eaten raw. in the ambiance of sprawl. have to be. wont be much fuel left of any kind after this orgy of the gods.
but I am mixed on the endangered species law. Its done alot of good but some bad also.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'S')pec's right, developers haven't been able to develop anything in the last 20 years, the animals own it all now! Fast food restaurants, housing subdivisions, car dealerships, condo complexes, strip malls, I haven't seen any of those built since gas was 5 cents a gallon. It's all animals now! We need a developer protection act to allow these poor souls a chance to make a modest living.

Sometimes Spec's right-wing tendencies drive me nuts, but since I found out he's really Edward Abbey at heart, he's OK with me.

[0mar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'S')pec's right, developers haven't been able to develop anything in the last 20 years, the animals own it all now! Fast food restaurants, housing subdivisions, car dealerships, condo complexes, strip malls, I haven't seen any of those built since gas was 5 cents a gallon. It's all animals now! We need a developer protection act to allow these poor souls a chance to make a modest living.

Sometimes Spec's right-wing tendencies drive me nuts, but since I found out he's really Edward Abbey at heart, he's OK with me.

[SurvivalAcres]

Thanks for the heads-up. They keep this stupidity up and it will be the human species that will be on the endangered list.

Which might not be a bad idea.

I don't know why politicos don't understand that the life forms on the earth sustain the human population. Wipe them out and you wipe us out.

[rogerhb]

Did Homo Sapiens ever get on the Endangered Species List?

If you are against the environment, where else are you going to live?

[Cynus]

The vote on this is today, if you were thinking of calling or e-mailing your rep.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SurvivalAcres', 'T')hanks for the heads-up. They keep this stupidity up and it will be the human species that will be on the endangered list.

Which might not be a bad idea.

I don't know why politicos don't understand that the life forms on the earth sustain the human population. Wipe them out and you wipe us out.

[holmes]

The conservation laws have grown our wildlife populations however the problem is that we are consuming their habitat. So basically its a Phantom success. The animals are coming into more contact with humans now becuase we are building our "amazing view mcmansions" out more and more into wilderness, etcc. Also without reducing human breeding along with sound wildlife managment its all a moot point. Just a matter of time till everyone is hunting (after oil based protien sources go the way of the dodo) and let the stripping of the surface begin. We have to be included in the environmental impact statement. we operate as if we are separated from nature. Oil has allowed humans to be greater than we actually are. we will find out soon enough though that this was a mistake. another reason why I am angry. all this conservation success was a waste of resources and time in the long term. Conservation was turned into a "Product".