THE Entropy Thread (merged)

by **nero** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 01:49:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')lush this turd, or HOF?

opinions people?

by **Canuck** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 02:17:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VoiceOfReason', '
')Please, none of that "Easter Island-Mayan-Roman Empire" stuff either.

by **MonteQuest** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 02:19:06

Hmmm...Well, since the thread was obviously pointed directly at me, I guess I should chime in as to whether or not we should keep this jewel of tongue-in-cheek, or flush it along with all the other bio-exhaust.

I have been working on a new thread, so I will drop in a little preview here to make this thread go somewhere or fan the flames into an inferno! Hee Hee! [smilie=violent5.gif]

In the post-peak world, I see too distinct camps of thought: Those who want to consume as before, and those who wish to find stability. The first group will be the capitalist/economist type, forever-looking for new ways to exploit the environment based upon the economic mindset of supply/demand. The second group will consist of those who realized that it was the mindset of the first group who got them to post-peak, although they had little choice as to whether or not to participate, and most did not know it was a path that led down a dark one-way alley. To be coninued...

by **MonteQuest** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 02:24:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') like the idea of the replicators they have on Star Trek. Someone should work on that one because a) free food is a good idea, and b) it will taste bad at first (probably not even as good as airline food). It would be better if they work out the kinks before we run out of real stuff.

by **Chicagoan** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 02:24:14

PSST...The government has this secret car that runs on water. It doesnt want anyone to know about it because they got the secret from aliens. But it is true. But sombody will leak it someday, and our troubles will be over.

The aliens also gave the government the secret to warp drive.

by **VoiceOfReason** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 02:47:07

If you jackass=es can't see how cryogencis, Dyson spheres, teleportation and warp drive offer us the perfect solutions to the problems of entropy and energy famine, then here are a few more for you to chew on:

1. Time Travel: Yes, like warp speed and teleportation, it is being researched. Here is a link proving so:

http://freespace.virgin.net/steve.preston/Time.html

It's amazingly simple: first, we travel to the future to see if this was even a problem. Most likely entropy turned out to be just a fad, so we document our findings and travel back to the early 21st century and report that all is okay in the future.

If - and this is a big if - entropy turns out to be a problem, we report that yes it was a problem.

This leaves us with a few possible solutions:

A. Time travel further into the future to see what solution the market came up with or

B. Start sending people back into other times where resources were abundant.

If we don't have enough time travel machines to make this a possibility then we might have to combine it with the cryogenics plan.

Additionally, we could bring back industrial leaders and captains of capitalism such as Henry Ford and John Rockefellear to advise us as to how to solve this problem.

2. Downloading Your Conscisouness Into a Solar-Powered Computer

This one is almost as good as the others - as soon as technology allows people the ability to download their life expereince into a computer, we hook a couple of servers up to some solar panels and let anybody afriad of the dieoff download their consciousness into the computer. Then, even if they die, it's no big deal.

Again, this technology may not be available today but in 5-10 years, I see no reason why not.

See people, entropy can be solved! There is no need to conserve energy or worry at all about this situation.

VOR

by **MonteQuest** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 02:51:06

Aw shucks, all his funny is gone.... :cry:

by **Matrim** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 03:30:13

I think I'm starting to have a meltdown. I just can't wrap my mind around this. Is this guy actually friggin' serious? I'm too dense to figure this out. Surely he can't actually believe this nonsense?

Someone please clarify I think I'm gonna pass out

by **Guest** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 04:45:58

Matrim-
http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm

The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls. Ignore. Responding only provides positive re-inforcement...and will only eventually jerk you around more than the state fair taffy-puller, alright? so for your sanity, DON"T FEED THE TROLL BY RESPONDING. This is not a real debate.

by **skiwi** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 06:18:28

y waste time and more importantly energy on this troll :roll:

by **Matrim** » Sun 19 Sep 2004, 13:56:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')atrim-
http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm

The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls. Ignore. Responding only provides positive re-inforcement...and will only eventually jerk you around more than the state fair taffy-puller, alright? so for your sanity, DON"T FEED THE TROLL BY RESPONDING. This is not a real debate

by **Guest** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 00:56:54

This is sort of funny

by **nero** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 01:12:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2'). Downloading Your Conscisouness Into a Solar-Powered Computer

This one is almost as good as the others - as soon as technology allows people the ability to download their life expereince into a computer, we hook a couple of servers up to some solar panels and let anybody afriad of the dieoff download their consciousness into the computer. Then, even if they die, it's no big deal.

Again, this technology may not be available today but in 5-10 years, I see no reason why not.

See people, entropy can be solved! There is no need to conserve energy or worry at all about this situation.

by **lowem** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 01:34:36

I see a lot of sci-fi fans here.

- "still an occasional sci-fi fan" :lol:

by **Chicagoan** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 02:20:36

Sometimes truth is stranger then fiction. Although my last comment was not meant to be taken seriously, I do believe that there are UFOs, and that they are from "someplace else."

http://www.mufon.com/

http://www.alienhunter.org/

http://xfacts.com/

This is a list of past shows of Feet 2 Fire. If you are unfamiliar with this kind of stuff, then you should listen to some of these shows. Matt Savinar did an interview once, which is how I found out about PO.
http://www.innersites.com/feet2fire/past-shows.htm

Now back to the topic. I am an advocate of space exploration. But right now, we need to solve the limits to growth problem. Entropy is a law of physics, and cannot be broken. no source of energy is truly limitless. Fusion might be a usable source of energy, but most experts do not expect it to be here for 50 years. We should not assume that some technological breakthrough will come along and save us. We must use much less energy in any case, because our lifestyle is killing the planet. If we cannot save our own world, then we have no buisness in space.

by **MonteQuest** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 02:39:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ometimes truth is stranger then fiction. Although my last comment was not meant to be taken seriously, I do believe that there are UFOs, and that they are from "someplace else."

by **Voice of Reason** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 03:03:35

Look, you jackasses, let me tell you a little about myself:

Here is my spaceship:

http://www.rael.org/int/press_site/full_screen_photo/ufo.rael.jpg

Proof we have been visited:

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_apr2001/Ufo.jpg

My favorite band:

[url]http://isrc.ncl.edu.tw/download/cover/新曲+精選～%20Energy.jpg[/url]

My last investment:

http://www.viridianrepository.com/Enron/enron-entropy.gif

Here's my thought process:

http://www.fourire.net/capresse/docs/images/imbecile.jpg

And my parents:

http://www.pr9000.net/archives/ugly.jpg

and me:

http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/5302/ugly2.jpg

And finally, my outlook towards life:

http://www.aoqz76.dsl.pipex.com/Web%20Page%20Components/Wallpaper/Animals/Cheeky%20Monkey.jpg

by **Itch** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 03:07:09

I apologize for calling you a troll. You're probably one of the funniest guys on the board.

by **lowem** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 03:07:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I') can't explain the phenomenon of UFO's, and I think there is too much evidence to dimiss it, I have trouble with their ability to travel the vastness of space. Take a looooooooooooooooooonnnnng time to come from even the nearest star, you know. If they exist, how do they get around the speed of light barrier do you suppose?

by **Matrim** » Mon 20 Sep 2004, 03:26:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')h, sci-fi has plenty of answers, none of it very-the-scientific though. Take your pick : "warp" drive, "fold" drive, wormholes, singularities, "jump" gates ... every story has got its own spin on the idea. Which way do you prefer, the Star Trek way? Star Wars? Robotech? Babylon 5? There's always the cryogenic freeze-your-ass-across-the-galaxy way seen in the Alien series.

One of the more innovative ones has got to be the "probability drive" in the Hitch-hiker's Guide. Can't remember the exact details, but it's something like, the more improbable it is, the faster you'll get there ...

THE Entropy Thread (merged)

Who is online