[knoppix2004]

There we go again. Whenever democracy show its true color - what do you guys do? You call it communism, socialism, and fascism. But truth is we live under one hundred and ten percent demarcated system. Democracy means – Kill the baby, rape the child, genocide, genocide. It is done by using the public will to rape and murder them. Don’t like it? Fine, just don’t change its name to something else.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Winston Churchill', 'D')emocracy is the worst possible system, except for all the others.

[MicroHydro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'I') will vote with pride (and a pen) this Saturday.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MicroHydro', 'N')ZIS willing, I hope to do the same in 2011.

[knightrd]

Friends don't let friends drink and post.

[Chicagoan]

Democracy is mob rule. The Constitution set up a federated republic with full separation of powers. In order to work, a republic needs an informed (and well armed) citizenry. All the problems in America are the result of us getting away from our constitutional republic.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', 'A')ll the problems in America are the result of us getting away from our constitutional republic.

[satjeet]

we have not only abandoned Confucius, we have lost our Way

[falser]

Democracy is not what the US needs. What the US actually needs is a good dictator to come along and straighten everything and everybody out. It's pretty obvious the average American voter isn't educated enough to choose a good leader, balance his budget, conserve energy etc, so let's have someone come in and tell us exactly what to do, no questions, and 100% conformity. I'm not talking about a neo-nazi dictator, but rather a type of dictator we've never seen before - a fiscally-conservative peak-oil-aware social-liberal dicator.

I'll volunteer for the job.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('falser', 'W')hat the US actually needs is a good dictator to come along and straighten everything and everybody out.

[MicroHydro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('falser', 'a') fiscally-conservative peak-oil-aware social-liberal dicator.

[knoppix2004]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('falser', 'D')emocracy is not what the US needs. What the US actually needs is a good dictator to come along and straighten everything and everybody out. It's pretty obvious the average American voter isn't educated enough to choose a good leader, balance his budget, conserve energy etc, so let's have someone come in and tell us exactly what to do, no questions, and 100% conformity. I'm not talking about a neo-nazi dictator, but rather a type of dictator we've never seen before - a fiscally-conservative peak-oil-aware social-liberal dicator.

I'll volunteer for the job.

[Chicagoan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('falser', 'D')emocracy is not what the US needs. What the US actually needs is a good dictator to come along and straighten everything and everybody out. It's pretty obvious the average American voter isn't educated enough to choose a good leader, balance his budget, conserve energy etc, so let's have someone come in and tell us exactly what to do, no questions, and 100% conformity. I'm not talking about a neo-nazi dictator, but rather a type of dictator we've never seen before - a fiscally-conservative peak-oil-aware social-liberal dicator.

I'll volunteer for the job.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('knoppix2004', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('falser', 'D')emocracy is not what the US needs.

[Chicagoan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('knoppix2004', '
')
It’s very obvious that ninety percents of the people can’t think for themselves, their thinking is done for them by government, media, and churches. One only had to read George Orwell’s novel 1984 to know what I mean.

[knoppix2004]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'I') do hope you were joking about thinking Bush was honourable.

[falser]

^^ that's where knoppix2004 and I disagree. I don't like Bush. I'm definitely not right-wing in the sense of social liberties and religion - that route leads to many evils. And taking over the Middle East and a 1984-style (Patriot Act) fascism regime isn't the answer. The answer to the US's problems is domestic reform on a very wide scale that is not possible with a democratic government. Building out nuclear energy power, fusion research, alternative power, rail overhaul, electric-only vehicles - none of this stuff will get done the way things are going.

[Teclo]

Forget democracy, we really live under a capitalist economic system that is a very demanding mistress

True democracy would allow for a far greater expression of lifestyles than our limited implementation
In other words democracy is 'good cop' for everyone to love while 'bad cop' economics takes everything away. Its not a free gift

If your going to sell democracy it should be an ideal not a system because western system is all mixed up with elite interests and materialism. I don't know if Bush will 'fail' in spreading it around the world but it certainly won't take the form he is expecting
Unfortunately he thinks he is completely right in everything which is obvious to all except those that follow the offical line

1984? I don't think so, when the truth is revealed - due to the collapse of the system - it will be like the 17th century again with many dissenters stirring up the people.
The industrial revolution/age of reason freed the mind but put the spirit in chains. Democracy giving freedom of body won't make up for this, so the system will be swept away. Ignore the voices who want dictators (spiritual or political) to enforce a false piety/terror and demand freedom of body, mind and spirit. This is true democracy

Teclo

[deconstructionist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')nything knoppix2004 has to say, in this thread or any other around here

[shakespear1]

I am now enjoying the book by John Marks - The search for the Manchurian Candidate".

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ould a clever foe "re-educate" such a person with a skillful application of LSD? Speculating on this question, the CIA official
states that while under the influence of the drug, "you
tend to have a more global view of things. I found it
awfully hard when stoned to maintain the notion: I am a
U.S. citizen—my country right or wrong.... You tend to
have these good higher feelings. You are more open to the
brotherhood-of-man idea and more susceptible to the seamy
sides of your own society.... I think this is exactly
what happened during the 1960s, but it didn't make people
more communist. It just made them less inclined to
identify with the U.S. They took a plague-on-both-your houses
position."