Good points Spec, but I would suggest that the quality control standards of most firearms makes is far higher than that of most sword makers today. I wouldn't trust most swords on the market to be able to hit something more than twice without breaking.
As far as intimidation goes, I find that a nice battle axe packs just a bit more punch than a sword.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?
by Carmiac » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 07:56:32
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?
by katkinkate » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 07:59:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carmiac', 'I')'m one of those medieval recreation guys who practices fully armored swordplay every week, and I would have to recommend against using a sword as anything but a weapon of last resort.
First, a gun beats a sword any day. Period.
Second, someone carrying around a sword is going to attract a heck of a lot of attention and, Highlander aside, it isn't exactly easy to conceal a sword.
Third, using a sword, any sword, any style, requires a heck of a lot more skill than you think. You will need to put a lot of effort into training.
Fourth, getting a hold of a well made, well balanced live steel sword is rather tricky.
First, a gun beats a sword any day. Period.
Second, someone carrying around a sword is going to attract a heck of a lot of attention and, Highlander aside, it isn't exactly easy to conceal a sword.
Third, using a sword, any sword, any style, requires a heck of a lot more skill than you think. You will need to put a lot of effort into training.
Fourth, getting a hold of a well made, well balanced live steel sword is rather tricky.
Words of wisdom here.
1. If swords are so great, how come they were so quick to give them up when guns were invented.
2. We mundane, non-immortals have no access to 'katana space'.
3. You're more likely to cut off your own ear swinging it around, or your fingers trying to clean and sharpen it. Think long, heavy razor blade.
4. Impossible here in Australia, live swords are illegal.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?
by Carmiac » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 08:19:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', '4'). Impossible here in Australia, live swords are illegal.
Thats odd... Guns are legal but swords aren't?
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?
by Chocky » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 09:00:52
In Australia people tend to say illegal or prohibited when they really mean heavily restricted. Victoria is the only state that I know of where swords are really restricted. They regulate them like guns- you need a safe, valid reason, license etc. What a sad joke. They did it because our vietnamese gangs love swords and other martial arts weapons.
Crossbows are regulated like guns in most Australian states now, they didn't used to be. Some guy got shot with a crossbow, so they had a nationwide crossbow blitz.
Crossbows are regulated like guns in most Australian states now, they didn't used to be. Some guy got shot with a crossbow, so they had a nationwide crossbow blitz.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?
by Specop_007 » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 09:21:45
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chocky', 'I')n Australia people tend to say illegal or prohibited when they really mean heavily restricted. Victoria is the only state that I know of where swords are really restricted. They regulate them like guns- you need a safe, valid reason, license etc. What a sad joke. They did it because our vietnamese gangs love swords and other martial arts weapons.
Crossbows are regulated like guns in most Australian states now, they didn't used to be. Some guy got shot with a crossbow, so they had a nationwide crossbow blitz.
Crossbows are regulated like guns in most Australian states now, they didn't used to be. Some guy got shot with a crossbow, so they had a nationwide crossbow blitz.
You guys are screwed if someone gets forked to death.
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?
by Chocky » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 09:50:04
Why, I have caches of forks stockpiled around the place just for that eventuality 
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Re: Wilkinson Swords, chromed or not?
by whiteknight » Mon 12 Sep 2005, 21:11:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'W')hat about throwable knives? They're reasonably small to carry without attracting attention and they have a much larger range than swords. Plus, they probably make good carving knives as well, which you can't say of swords.
I've played with thrown weapons a bit, was a weird obsesion of my misspent youth. Actualy a whole batch of us woudl routinely screw around and either buy or make some type of thrown weapon and then we woudl play around testing them on things.
My best was a throwing star made of used sickle blades from a windrower... Four triangular blades each about the size of your palm and sharp as the dickens. Thrown well it woudl literaly tear through an old car door and stop just protruding from the interior material... pretty cool. Got me detention for a week for trying to sell them to other kids.
Anyhow, unless you get to to point where you hit a palm sized target swinging side to side from a tree the damned things are useless. Any hit outside of a hand, neck or maybe groin is just going to piss the guy off. The skull is just too thick for a knife to punch through unless you are friggin Arnie. The knife has too little weight to generate the kinetic force neccisary for a serious penetrating wound. Also the design you need for throwing sort of makes them uselss for any utility work. Mind you a Sykes Fairborne (sp?) commando knife is a pretty sight. Needle pointed, long and thin. Real good for stabing or slicing a throat... but thats not the beast we be speaking of here.
Now axes... thares a beast of a differant stripe... but throwing them is a royal bitch and hiding them is as tough. But if you can get good.. well a whole world of death dealing opens up. They are heavy enough to impart sufficent energy to crack a skull or break ribs to get to vitals such as heart and lungs. They also do a damn fine job chopping trees and other woodworking tasks.
My preferance is the axe, tomohawk to be exact. Damn nice for all around weaponry.
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