[something_awfull]

When I started looking into PO and learned what was going on, I sort of just sat on the road and watched them big bright lights get closer, then I kind of ran around in small tight circles yelling "fuck,fuck,fuck", now I just watch adverts for plasma screen tv's and hugh motor vehicles with bemusement. Im currently trying to work out things I should probably be starting to hoard, and wondering where I can get a firearm and when I should get one.

[Raxozanne]

I take it you live in Australia.

Their rules are kindof like in the UK.

You may own a gun for recreational use or if you can 'prove' you need one (i.e: you live in the countryside and need to shoot dingos).

So my advice would be join a gun club and buy a shotgun. That's what I will be doing once I get out there.

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') kind of ran around in small tight circles yelling "fuck,fuck,fuck"

[something_awfull]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'I') take it you live in Australia.

Their rules are kindof like in the UK.

You may own a gun for recreational use or if you can 'prove' you need one (i.e: you live in the countryside and need to shoot dingos).

So my advice would be join a gun club and buy a shotgun. That's what I will be doing once I get out there.

[something_awfull]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') kind of ran around in small tight circles yelling "fuck,fuck,fuck"

[evilmonkeyspanker]

I served 4 years in the Army, and the only weapons I have ever shot are m-16's & m203 grenade launchers.

I have never in my life been hunting, or even in the very least killed anything. I find the whole idea of killing animals unsettling... I am thinking vegeterism is more up my alley

[wildsparrow]

I totally relate. I was quite depressed for a week or two. Now, I am making sure to put my babies in cloth nappies, trying to work out how on earth to grow veggies, and laughing at myself wryly as I soak in a hot bath with a carton of chocolate milk and then turn on my electric blanket. And laugh at the world hopelessly with every car commercial. And wonder despairingly about the future of medicine as I take my cold and flu tablets. Eurgh.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he scary thing is, I have no idea how to even slaughter an animal, God help the first cow I have to kill

[Jake_old]

Well something_awfull, I was always rather depressed, I am less so now.

Don't just buy a gun illegaly and hide it, when you need to use it you'll end up on the wrong end! I would like a gun too but live in the UK and think its not an option, damn those lucky Americans

Don't worry too much about the water either, at least not in the immediate future. Think about the waste that will be eliminated due to an economic slowdown. See how much water is used washing shiny cars and moistening lush looking lawns.

I agree with dukat, stop watching TV, but I still play a few games

Look at the great work by EnviroMission here Specop posted this (just to show I'm not goal hanging), its in Australia.

PO is bad, especially for those who want to keep to the ordinary. A simpler way will be better, just a little harder.

[FairMaiden]

I don't know of many places (I can't think of one, and I did a study of it in college) where you could live as a vegetarian w/o any imported foods. Think about it - w/o refridgerators, how do you keep veggies throughout the winter? Some you can can - but still, the fat of meat packs a greater punch with regards to survival. I say this bc my body rebels against me if I do not eat protein from animals (such as fish, chicken, etc).

Wildsparrow - There are an AMAZING amount of herbal remedies available for almost any ailment. Take Calamine lotion - it has zinc in it - not very good for us. To reduce swelling/itching due to sting bites you can use witch hazel instead. Get some books and you'd be surprised. Aloe Vera plants are cheap and easy to keep. That does alot.

FM.

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', 'I') don't know of many places (I can't think of one, and I did a study of it in college) where you could live as a vegetarian w/o any imported foods. Think about it - w/o refridgerators, how do you keep veggies throughout the winter? Some you can can - but still, the fat of meat packs a greater punch with regards to survival. I say this bc my body rebels against me if I do not eat protein from animals (such as fish, chicken, etc).

Wildsparrow - There are an AMAZING amount of herbal remedies available for almost any ailment. Take Calamine lotion - it has zinc in it - not very good for us. To reduce swelling/itching due to sting bites you can use witch hazel instead. Get some books and you'd be surprised. Aloe Vera plants are cheap and easy to keep. That does alot.

FM.

[medicvet]

A thermal mass refrigerator? This is the first I have heard of this. Are there any links or doyou have any further info?

And I have been looking into a lot of stuff on the internet since I first heard about peak oil..my father used to work for an oil company for most of his life before he retired, and he knows of wells that they wouldn't pump because it just wasn't profitable enough for them, so he thinks that peak oil is some kind of conspiracy by the oil companies

All in all, I am okay where I am at; there are a lot of worse places I could be, such as where I used to live in Ventura..only an hour drive north of LA..while there are food sources around there a mass migration of refugees fleeing the city would quickly do a lot of harm in a place like Ventura. I moved here for financial reasons as the real estate market is a lot better in Oklahoma and I do have some distant relatives here, but I am beginning to realize that it was best for me to move here for other reasons as well. The rural town I live in doesn't even have an interestate nearby; the closest one is over 30 miles away.

[Blueberry]

Well, keeping veggies fresh through the winter is achieved sometimes by a very special procedure called "canning" there's also "drying"?? LOL



Something_Awfull -- when I found out about PO, I got pretty depressed, too. But --that's good, if you think about it.

Depression has actually been shown to be a biologically advantageous reaction to over-stress.

So, it's just mother nature making sure you worry about this. Worrying creates solutions.

And the biggest solutionto PO, imo, is to accept in a kind of buddhist way. Then you can still function while problem solving.

[MD]

I thought I was the only one that circled saying "f*ck f*ck f*ck". Except I do it for no reason at all!

[skyemoor]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('medicvet', 'A') thermal mass refrigerator? This is the first I have heard of this. Are there any links or doyou have any further info?