[abelardlindsay]

Another very novel energy idea. Way far out there, way out. This guy is either the next Einstein or just another one of the many new energy dreamers. Lots of theoretical stuff on the guys site.

Chukanov's Ball Lighting Interview

And his Ball Lightning website

[EnergySpin]

Did you notice the Quantum Free Energy phrase?
At least he is selling a book of BS and not stock .
Free+Energy = Do not mix together

[abelardlindsay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', 'D')id you notice the Quantum Free Energy phrase?
At least he is selling a book of BS and not stock .
Free+Energy = Do not mix together

[EnergySpin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('abelardlindsay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergySpin', 'D')id you notice the Quantum Free Energy phrase?
At least he is selling a book of BS and not stock .
Free+Energy = Do not mix together

[abelardlindsay]

You know it might be a good thing(tm) if this guy was full of it.

I mean which would you rather have? Lots of nifty little solar farms + stirling engines and a hydrogen/biodiesel economy. Or endless free energy for anyone who wants it with the ability to scale to world devastating levels of energy? If there are advanced civilizations out there periodically observing us, they are probably waiting to see if when we discover new sources of energy (i.e nuclear/oil) that we are mature enough to utilize them without destroying ourselves and our planet.

http://www.chukanovenergy.com/index.php?section=27

In the chain of energy evolution, every newly discovered source of energy is much more powerful than the previous one. For example, the range of nuclear ene4rgy is a few MeV per particle, while the range of chemical energy is only a few eV per particle. In short, the transition from chemical to nuclear energy is millions of times higher. Quantum energy produced from the phenomenon of ball lightning, could reach enormous levels--10^15-10^20 eV/particle. Quantum energy particle beams created by humankind could be thought comparable to the power of our sun--a terrifying concept.

[EnergySpin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('abelardlindsay', 'Y')ou know it might be a good thing(tm) if this guy was full of it.

I mean which would you rather have? Lots of nifty little solar farms + stirling engines and a hydrogen/biodiesel economy. Or endless free energy for anyone who wants it with the ability to scale to world devastating levels of energy? If there are advanced civilizations out there periodically observing us, they are probably waiting to see if when we discover new sources of energy (i.e nuclear/oil) that we are mature enough to utilize them without destroying ourselves and our planet.

http://www.chukanovenergy.com/index.php?section=27

In the chain of energy evolution, every newly discovered source of energy is much more powerful than the previous one. For example, the range of nuclear ene4rgy is a few MeV per particle, while the range of chemical energy is only a few eV per particle. In short, the transition from chemical to nuclear energy is millions of times higher. Quantum energy produced from the phenomenon of ball lightning, could reach enormous levels--10^15-10^20 eV/particle. Quantum energy particle beams created by humankind could be thought comparable to the power of our sun--a terrifying concept.

[abelardlindsay]

Ball Lightining does appear to be an interesting phenomenon though. According to Wikipedia, it has been confirmed to be real but does not have a good scientific explanation yet.

BTW, this is not ZPE. I know all about the ZPE theories, Casimir effect ,etc. I would have posted this guy under the ZPE forum if that's what he was talking about. Cold Fusion, ZPE that's mainstream "New Energy" rambling. This theory is a new one. Some kind of macro quantum effect.

http://www.chukanovenergy.com/index.php?section=27

My explanation of this energy may seem quite fantastic, but it accounts for all of the phenomena involved. As Figure IV-14.1 shows, the ball lightning, because of the quick and complete ionization of its atoms, appears to be below the bottom quantum boundary R(k,p) (point 3). In this state, it is "hidden," undetermined. It has no contact with the surrounding, determined world and remains unnoticed. To escape its isolation and at the same time to preserve the density of its substance (R=R3) unchanged, the ball lightning appears on the bottom boundary R(k,p) at point 2. But its very appearance in the determined world is accompanied by a bonus--additional energy, which is not taken from the ordered world but which is a quantum present from the vacuum (more precisely from nothingness).

Within the limits of deltaR=R=R(k,p,3), this seeming violation of the law of energy preservation is permitted. Nature rather observes the principle of minimum effect--in this case, the minimum gift of energy from the vacuum. The ball lightning appears exactly on the quantum boundary Rk,p to receive its minimum gift of quantum energy deltaE from the vacuum. This "fight" also explains why ball lightning has a preference for the form of a sphere. The energy emitted is proportional to its surface; and when the volume does not change, the shape of a sphere presents the minimal surface.

The idea of a violation of the law of energy preservation is not new but this violation concerns only the restriction : deltaE x deltaT>=H. It is believed that within the span of deltaT quantum time, so -called virtual particles could be initiated, a process which, in itself, violates the law of energy preservation. However, in the course of this quantum time-span, all energies are restored. The quantum moment ends with no losses or extra energy.

Things, however, are quite different with deltaR=Rk,p. If the ball lightning contracts another body which is at a distance deltaR<Rk,p from the ball lightning, that second body receives energy from the ball lightning, much as a child roaming around a room would receive heat if he learned against a warm radiator (although, to make the analogy exact, it would be the radiator which was in motion). The "hot" ball lightning loses nothing in the contact. It emits energy but does not lose energy because it has to stay on the quantum boundary Rk,p. Therefore the structureless nuclear component of ball lightning makes an energy transfer from its body to another body only when it is in a direct contact with the later.

[abelardlindsay]

Some Earlier Coverage of the whole thing. Looks like even the ZPE forum folks aren't convinced at all. Good, the last thing I needed was another Tunguska.

[abelardlindsay]

Here's a link to Free Energy New's Directory Entry about Chukanov and His Ball Lightining.

Pretty comprehensive including links to all his patents, statements from skeptics, etc.

[gnm]

I have personally seen/heard ball lightning - it resulted immediately after a nearby lightning strike - (The whole area was hugely charged, High mountaintop ridge at the cloud base - mist/rain with little crackling discharges jumping through the trees etc)

Anyways it makes a freaky buzzing noise and basically looks like a ball of bluish plasma with lots of little tendrils. It jumped around a lot then sort of broke into smaller balls and small tendrils.

-G

[Drjay]

It is always interesting to watch other's judge a technology (or potential one) based upon their own lack of understanding. He makes a lot more sense then the "string theory" boys. I wish him lots of luck.

Turning a concept into the engineering to bail us out of a big hole is going to take a lot of work, no matter which answer (or combination of answers) is used.

[MD]

I won't call "bullshit" on something I don't understand. Don't come looking to me for investments though.

[Drjay]

Don't get me wrong, he has got to deliver before I completely buy his theories. But if he can deliver what he believe is possible, then lots of things will change dramatically. I understand that he is working on turning it into a practical system.

It will be quite a trick to pull out lots of power out of a system that likes to melt electrodes.

[Ming]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t is always interesting to watch other's judge a technology (or potential one) based upon their own lack of understanding. He makes a lot more sense then the "string theory" boys. I wish him lots of luck.

Turning a concept into the engineering to bail us out of a big hole is going to take a lot of work, no matter which answer (or combination of answers) is used.

[Caoimhan]

What do people mean when they say, "Free Energy"?

Do they mean it comes out of no-where, violating the universal laws of conservation?

Do they mean that the mechanism by which we can obtain it would be so cheap to produce, that it would cost more to send utility bills to people than the paper and postage would be worth, and therefore should be given away for free?

Or do they mean "Free of environmental hazards"?

Or how about "Free" in the sense that the energy isn't bound up in chemical bonds or the strong nuclear force... but instead "Freely floating" out there around us?

Which "Free Energy" do you object to?

To reject an idea because it is colloquially called "Free Energy" is stupid.

[Drjay]

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')Seems to me you don’t understand it, and so you think no one can understand it.
So everyone must at least keep an “open mind” right?
Like in cold fusion or in homeopathy… Very Happy