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THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 17 Jul 2025, 02:44:27

Ok. Lets have a peak into the future, with a reliable model this time and not the Hopium spread by the Alternate-Energy nuts.

Australia’s oldest commercial wind farm to close as cost of repowering is too high

Just let that sink in...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n a first clue as to what might be the future for some ageing wind farms sites, renewable energy company Pacific Blue says it will not repower the country’s oldest commercial wind farm at Codrington in Victoria. The 18.2 megawatt (MW) Codrington wind farm was commissioned in 2001 and will be decommissioned in 2027, a Pacific Blue spokesperson told Renew Economy on Monday.

Despite an enviable location near Port Fairy in southwest Victoria, which benefited from the same southern ocean winds that drew the federal government to the offshore Southern Wind zone, repowering the site will be too expensive, the company says. “At this stage, Pacific Blue is not pursuing a repowering option for Codrington, as the site’s grid connection would require significant upgrades and today’s turbine siting requirements would preclude the installation of latest generation turbines, resulting in a non-financially viable project,” the spokesperson said.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/australias- ... -too-high/

Technology changes and the old turbines are no longer available. The sites grid connection? That would be the transformers and wires, all the way back to town. It's a dark harbinger for the future of all the latest crap they have smeared across the landscape eh.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Also nearing the end of its life is the neighbouring 30MW Yambuk wind farm, which was launched onto the Victorian grid in 2007. But Pacific Blue would not say what its plans are for Yambuk, only that it’s focusing first on decommissioning the Codrington wind farm.

Yambuk, however, is part of the bigger 195 MW Portland wind project, which includes four wind farms in the area and was finished in 2011.

they're all for the dumpster I'll wager. Thank God for our Coal reserves.
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Thu 17 Jul 2025, 19:57:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')Australia’s oldest commercial wind farm to close as cost of repowering is too high

Just let that sink in...



Indeed. Single commercial wind farm in the land of humans that can't build ferris wheels is closing down.

Let it sink in...might I recommend baby steps? First like a small wooden ferris wheel, before you build bigger ones? Get that right, and maybe we can talk about these things called "cars", 4 wheels, a little motor to move them around?

Round up all the people in Australia that graduated high school and give them a year, maybe they can figure it out? Alternatively, find an American hobbyist at the age of 12 and they'll get you to a Ferrari, while Australian geniuses invent one of these....

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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby mousepad » Fri 18 Jul 2025, 06:36:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')Indeed. Single commercial wind farm in the land of humans that can't build ferris wheels is closing down.


Australia had 35% of its electricity generated with renewables while the exceptional USA only did 23%.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/map ... y-in-2022/

And btw regarding USA, I didn't know this myself:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Three of the top five solar electricity-producing states in 2022 have Republican-controlled legislatures. The same is true of half of the 10 states producing the most renewable electricity from all sources (excluding hydropower). Four of the five also have GOP governors.

I guess it's the difference in mentality. Democrats put their energy into victimhood politics and petty BS while real men get stuff done. :-)
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 18 Jul 2025, 06:46:17

if you have your eyes open you'll see an interesting trend. The mass media can turn on a dime and begin to undo years and years of bubble memes as though the former stories they spruked meant nothing at all. No explanations of why, just an abrupt about face. We saw this over a year ago when the Battcar bubble was popping, the mass media was full of negative stories and the EVidiots were furious! How dare they print fake news!! Now were seeing it with wind power projects, and I assume it will have the same effect as it did when they began to slander RBC's, peoples opinions will change more rapidly and they will grow very negative toward the technology.

From the ABC: Offshore wind companies cool Australian interest as public investment considered
Global offshore wind companies Equinor and BlueFloat Energy are winding back their Australian investments.
Blue Float Energy abandons $10 billion Gippsland Dawn offshore wind proposal

Then you have the Soros backed rent-a-crowd style sites still spruking
Australia is primed to harness its offshore wind potential
This article is full of kub style future promises like, In the move to offshore wind, however, the country has let others take the lead. That is about to change. In May and July 2024, the Federal government awarded 12 feasibility licences for projects in the country’s first designated offshore wind zone, in Gippsland, Victoria

Blah Blah Blah. Meanwhile as the news reports, the companies are Bailing Out! I realize this is an Australian specific case, perhaps in your nation the media isn't as honest and hasn't begun reporting the failure of the netzero schemes. But it will come, the German experience shows that. Even with all their technological prowess and huge industrial economy the experiment in solar and wind has proven a failure.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')RANKFURT, March 5 (Reuters) - Germany's nuclear engineering lobby on Wednesday said up to half a dozen nuclear power stations could in theory be reopened despite closing in 2023 as a result of Berlin's decision to exit nuclear power, as the next government looks to secure cheaper energy.
Germany's conservatives, winners of the February election, said resuming nuclear power generation was an option to tackle high power prices and rising dependency on electricity imports, most notably from nuclear-reliant France.
The operators of the nuclear plants said, however, their closure was final.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-15/ ... /105520316
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-16/ ... /105495614
https://www.societegenerale.asia/en/new ... potential/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ge ... 025-03-05/
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby mousepad » Fri 18 Jul 2025, 07:10:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Germany's conservatives, winners of the February election



I hate this misleading label. They are not conservatives. They are center left. A tad less retarded than the previous gang, the Greens. Germany has ONLY left-leaning parties, with the exception of AfD, which is center right, but conveniently labeled by mainstream media as far right. You know, a party that tries to prioritize Germans in Germany over imported mohameds. Similar to the US, where hinting at putting Americans before imported Juans will solidly put you into nazi territory.
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 18 Jul 2025, 17:07:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '
')I hate this misleading label. They are not conservatives. They are center left. A tad less retarded than the previous gang, the Greens. Germany has ONLY left-leaning parties, with the exception of AfD, which is center right, but conveniently labeled by mainstream media as far right. You know, a party that tries to prioritize Germans in Germany over imported mohameds. Similar to the US, where hinting at putting Americans before imported Juans will solidly put you into nazi territory.


A good analysis. So without any party with balls, do you thing that means they won't go to war this time? Of all the nations I's like to see neutered Germany would have to be top of the list.
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Fri 18 Jul 2025, 19:34:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'i')f you have your eyes open you'll see an interesting trend.


Yup. One went by the house the other day. There must be like a petting zoo or something nearby and folks are doing Aussie national parttime activities or something.

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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 19 Jul 2025, 18:39:41

Why is wind power not reliable?
Because the wind doesn't always blow, wind turbines disregard the fundamental principle of our grids: The supply of electricity must meet demand in real time. On calm days, wind might generate unnecessary power; and during peak usage periods, turbines might generate nothing.


This was well understood back in 2007 (nearly two decades ago: link below) So what happened? Politics, climate change and netZero is what happened. Everyone was screaming about the depletion of fossil fuels and everyone was squealing about climate change. So governments put their heads together at the Paris climate conference and agreed to waste hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars on wind farms. This had an immediate effect. It shut the mouths of the squealing voters, their constituents went back to their conspicuous consumption, happy now that there was a solution for the two worst disasters facing their way of life. Taxes kept rollin in, Problem solved.

But 10 years later the public is now squealing again. this time squealing about high energy prices, while the builders of these boondoggle wind farms are squealing about low energy prices. So all the wind farms are being cancelled and the old ones decommissioned, just like the expensive nuclear plants across the world are getting shut down at end of life and few replacements built. You think Germany abandoned it's Nuclear plants because of a reaction to Fukushima? Yes they did, but many were approaching the end of their design life so they would have gone offline in a decade or so anyway. In 1990, during the German reunification, all eastern German nuclear power plants were closed due to flaws in safety standards.

https://www.wind-watch.org/newsarchive/ ... practical/
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 19 Jul 2025, 18:59:14

Want to see an amazing sight? Here is a video of a wind farm being dismantled, the work involved is very expensive. It's filmed in Germany, and it's full of delusional "recycling" chatter but if you watch closely you can see the reality coming through. Why are they dismantling it? They say because a huge transformer station is going to be built where they are for offshore wind (if they are ever built :roll: ). But that makes no sense at all, since the land they take up is vast compared to what such a station would use. Good farmland too. They are 13 years old, and perhaps the old design is too expensive on maintenance. There is a lot of Spin in this vid, good convincing spin for altEnergy fanbois. But just consider who would want these old dogs after refurbishment anyway, and the concrete bases and towers are throw away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbjWWM4a4Vk
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Sat 19 Jul 2025, 19:45:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')i]Why is wind power not reliable?[i]
https://www.wind-watch.org/newsarchive/ ... practical/

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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Sat 19 Jul 2025, 19:47:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')ant to see an amazing sight?

Yes. How about an X-ray of your brain pan to see if it contains grey matter the size of a squirrel, or a rabbit?
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 20 Jul 2025, 01:53:47

I know most people don't want to hear all this news, this reality of the collapse of once cherished dreams, but I'm going to keep posting up the collapse of it. Why? Because you don't get off that easy, you can't pretend it didn't happen and crawl under a rock of future Hopium.

Already I see the masses flocking to the next bubble, the AI bubble that promises the Tomorrow Land future. They want to pretend that the hundreds of thousands of pointless wind generators doesn't matter, that the millions of Battcars searching for a top up amongst the detritus of the charger network don't exist. That the Shale revolution that didn't bring prosperity never happened.

It's all chatter now about AI and how it's soooo Amazing. Well you know where that leads, the same place every other stockmarket bubble to date has led, down the toilet as far as benefits to society at large. Until people wake up to the 2008 conventional PeakOil turning point and it's consequences they will forever be Lemmings running towards the cliff edge. Ahead of them many have already leapt over, Salesman, Accountants, factory workers, IT folk and engineers. People who have lost their jobs and can't get another and are out of the game, because in Western society if you have no money you don't exist! No one wants to know you. You have to face these hard facts, accept them, and act accordingly or your future will be scavenging in the rubbish pile of a once proud nation, as more and more are, every day.

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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Sun 20 Jul 2025, 10:40:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I') know most people don't want to hear all this news, this reality of the collapse of once cherished dreams, but I'm going to keep posting up the collapse of it.


Cool. How about a thinking child's question? Please define collapse. Because as best I can tell, everything you whine about has been going on for longer than you've been alive. So collapse isn't homelessness (been around forever), or changing values in various currencies (been around forever), or oil volumes going up and down (been around since 1859), or even how those who can't think or reason and drop out of school continue to plague the world (although they are useful on their knees in service to their King).

So...define the collapse you are constantly bleating about. While you still have electricity. While you vacation on weekends on motorcycles that run on...petrol. While the internet is up and running allowing you to bleat. While your currency in Australia, just like mine in the US, continues to buy stuff. No gold required, How is it, and something even a moron might understand, that you talk about HOMELESSNESS, and not death by starvation of millions? Be they in insignificant countries like yours, or the most powerful country in the history of mankind, like mine.

Just a question. My bet is you can't answer even the most basic question because blowhards, like parrots, aren't about thinking through their ideas, but just whining and pouting and spewing them out without even the most basic understanding of what they are claiming.
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 20 Jul 2025, 23:49:25

Germany’s Power Market Bailed Out by Gas Plants as Wind Plunges

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')ermany added more onshore wind turbines in the past decade than any other European country, but a severe slump in output this month shows how the nation’s energy system is still at the mercy of the weather and its old fossil-fuel plants.

Wind speeds slumped about 12% in March from a year earlier, because of a North Atlantic ocean pattern that put Germany in an unusually long-lasting high-pressure bullseye. That sent average daily power generation from the nation’s thousands of turbines to its lowest level since 2016 and kept power prices elevated.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nd-plunges

So you pay twice the cost for a fraction of the reliability. The manic push for wind power generation had good but delusional origins, the cutting of fossil fuel burning. But all it achieved was the transfer coal and Gas burning in Europe to double that amount in China that built the Tech. Tech-nologic.

It it wasn't for the levelizing of costs in Britain, where the price of wind generated electricity is subsidized by that of coal and nuclear, the bill there in some regions would have forced a mass migration I'm sure.
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby AdamB » Mon 21 Jul 2025, 08:16:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Germany’s Power Market Bailed Out by Gas Plants as Wind Plunges

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nd-plunges
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 22 Jul 2025, 14:11:15

The ramp up of all this wind and solar nonsense was a response to COP in Paris where the leaders of the western world all agreed to going net zero by 2035 by burning unlimited Coal in China to build the first generation of zero emission power networks. Unfortunately the CO2 doesn't care if it's released in Europe or America or China. It will still happily go up into the atmosphere and do it's thing. And of course as storm damage wear and tear and general aging takes these alternate marvels out, China will have to build the next generation, then the next generation, and so on until all the coal and oil is burnt :lol:

What a jerk circle.
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Postby AdamB » Wed 23 Jul 2025, 14:17:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')What a jerk circle.


Well, you would know how the King likes it. :o
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

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One Big JerkCircle :lol:
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Postby AdamB » Wed 23 Jul 2025, 21:37:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'O')ne Big JerkCircle :lol:


So you are required to do this to him with friends? How many at a time, and are the ringleader, knowing what he likes and good at giving it to him? Must be a sign of status in a country lacking cajones perhaps?
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Re: THE Wind Power Thread pt 4 (merged)

Postby theluckycountry » Thu 24 Jul 2025, 02:52:31

Is anyone else sick of AI voice-over youtubes? They totally suck, and just show how amateurish the presenters videos actually are. I click off as soon as I hear that robotic voice because I know all I'll get is plagiarized lame content anyway. Another phenomena that has risen of late is the clickbait anti-title vids as I call them. Vids claiming to present one case when in actuality they present the opposite. It's a limited market for these, and they seem to all be related to selling crypto and Battcars, Windmills etc. The techno-bubble toys in other words.

100% wind and solar is a scam states one title <vid below>, and the opening minute or so seems to be presenting the case. But then it turns into a fanboi vid promoting Green delusions. But why Lie? Why put up a false title? Well it's obvious to me at least, the vast majority of people now are either anti or seriously questioning the viability of these technologies; ergo deceptive measures must be employed to lure them back into the congregation of believers. A little brainwashing is needed and all that matters is that they hear the sermon, one more time.

The vid misses, Omits, many realities. Like the fact that "reasonably sized batteries" needed to see us through the dark nights will not be recharged the following day if it's overcast. And that Any "reasonably sized batteries" as the videographer calls them, would actually be Massive batteries, that cost a fortune, and be dead as door nails in 10 years or less.

He assumes also that because the capital cost to buy batteries has fallen by 40% since 2023 (because of nothing other than the collapse of the battcar Bubble) they will keep falling. And then he borrows kub's crystal ball to talk about other amazing technologies in this area. Of course no mention whatsoever is made of the fact that all these systems are made from cheap oil and coal. It's just asssssumed that in the future it will all be made from electricity. Because electricity is their God.

Yes you heard that right, a god, by any other name. These people worship electricity, it is the ultimate, the true savior of mankind. It is omniscient, omnipresent, all powerful, there is nothing it cannot do. And it's not a stretch for this small subset of humanity to believe this either, because as G.K. Chesterton once famously stated — 'When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.' — Which is just another way of stating that humans' have in innate need to believe in something greater than themselves.

Naturally such a statement will draw the ire of many techno-cornucopian wind socks, because... [Caution, Logic employed here]
They no longer choose to believe in God as their forefathers did, and therefore... are capable of believing in anything. What Chesterton was referring to was not a "I believe it's going to rain tomorrow" type of belief, but a true faith inspired worshipful belief that is like that religious belief but now is given to something else. UFO's are an example. people that truly believe in them believe 100%. I mean 100%, no doubts. Their ARE aliens out there, beings wiser and more powerful than us. And these fanboi of tech-no-logic are the same in their devout faith is electricity. Nothing will shake their faith, they are at Wako, at Jonestown, waiting for the new millennia of peace and prosperity and God help anyone that challenges their beliefs.

And that explains why they disregard obvious channels of inquiry like "How exactly are you going to mine rock and smelt ore as efficiently as today without diesel and coal?" Questions like that are simply sidestepped. The solutions are not in their bible so the problem doesn't exist.

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