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THE Coal Thread pt 4

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 09 Oct 2023, 17:22:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', ' ')I was still young and full of hope that renewables will save the world. How sad to see ones dreams and hopes being crushed like this.


Oddly enough I never believed any of it. I have see governments and corporations lie far too much over my life to take anything at face value. Some new tech pops up and is heavily marketed on the legacy media, politicians get behind it, investors are suckered into it, then it's crickets. Remember the autonomous car? 2018 for sure... slight delay, 2020 abouts... And now it's nearly 2024 and what have we heard in the media about that revolution? Crickets.

The thing that really bewilders me is why the average Joe jets suckered in time and time again and never questions the veracity of these claims, especially in light of all the past failures? It's like the war in the ukraine, we'd just been through two decades of lies over Afghanistan and Iraq, and they walk right in, pick up their little ukrainian flags, and start spewing the same drivel about democracy and freedom. I swear they are hypnotized, by the TV of course, that's the only common denominator. As I have stated before, I haven't owned or watched a TV since 1979. Yes, true. I came back from a 6 month trip in the desert working in a blue sky mine and the commercial channels had gone from 1 ad to 3 in the break. In a drunken moment I dragged it down the steps and tossed it on the footpath and never looked back.

Now coal WAS in a bear market forever but there is tons of it out there. This April 2023 chart's predictions were overstated but in the ball park. Current price, $US 126/t

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Compare that to this earlier chart that ends in 2013, the spike is the GFC collapse.

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This image is from a pdf rant about "Blue" Hydrogen. That's another HUGE lie. They are using the system to make ammonia, to make fertilizer and all the talk about splitting water is BS. They will burn this coal, nothing surer.

So when we get into trouble with the techie dreams, it's going to be coal to the rescue. Why did the price of coal go up so much beginning in the 2000's? Because you need squillions of gallons of Oil to mine and transport it of course. It's all oil, everything, even Gold. Sounds like a solid investment for the future to me.

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The pdf Rant if you're interested in reading lies.
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _Australia
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 13 Jun 2025, 16:54:39

EPA proposes slashing power plant carbon, mercury emission limits

June 12, 2025 https://www.utilitydive.com/news/epa-pr ... on/750540/

Why? To keep the lights on obviously :razz:
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 13 Jun 2025, 20:16:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]EPA proposes slashing power plant carbon, mercury emission limits
June 12, 2025 https://www.utilitydive.com/news/epa-pr ... on/750540/


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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 14 Jun 2025, 03:47:46

America’s Power Shift: From Coal to What? (1950–2024)
https://www.voronoiapp.com/energy/Ameri ... 02024-5092

1950- 14.1 Qbtu
2024- 10.6 Qbtu
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 14 Jun 2025, 14:56:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]America’s Power Shift: From Coal to What? (1950–2024)

https://www.voronoiapp.com/energy/Ameri ... 02024-5092
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 15 Jun 2025, 16:40:39

Trump: No More "Bullshit" Windmills
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;They only work if you get subsidy. The only people who want them are the people getting rich off windmills, getting massive subsidies from the US government... Trump says he’s cancelling windmills and solar fields. He says they destroy property values, barely offset their own carbon footprint, and kill animals

https://modernity.news/2025/06/15/trump ... windmills/

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 15 Jun 2025, 17:42:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Trump: No More "Bullshit" Windmills
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;They only work if you get subsidy. The only people who want them are the people getting rich off windmills, getting massive subsidies from the US government... Trump says he’s cancelling windmills and solar fields. He says they destroy property values, barely offset their own carbon footprint, and kill animals

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 15 Jun 2025, 19:26:38

He's YOUR president, never forget that. 50% voted for him.

Doesn't it ever make you wonder why it's always 48, 52. Or 49, 51? Almost like... It was engineered that way. Hard to believe that a nation could be divided so neatly. Makes you wonder what the outcome would have been had the media (TV) not demonized one and made the other look like a statesman saint. But don't you worry about that, the Football game is on, off you go.
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 15 Jun 2025, 20:03:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'H')e's YOUR president, never forget that. 50% voted for him. Doesn't it ever make you wonder why it's always 48, 52. Or 49, 51?


I understand that we are stuck with our President, yes. And you are required to stay on your knees for your King.

And yes, 50%+ voted for him,just as <50% voted for him the two times before.

I do wonder what the reasons are, the ones people think about when they vote for the President.

The good news is, we vote our President. And you? Just stay on your knees Unlucky, it is hard....that voting thing. Your King thanks you.

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby careinke » Mon 16 Jun 2025, 01:46:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'H')e's YOUR president, never forget that. 50% voted for him.

Doesn't it ever make you wonder why it's always 48, 52. Or 49, 51? Almost like... It was engineered that way. Hard to believe that a nation could be divided so neatly. Makes you wonder what the outcome would have been had the media (TV) not demonized one and made the other look like a statesman saint. But don't you worry about that, the Football game is on, off you go.



You are correct, but that’s the old politics trying to keep the same old game going. Those are dead men walking — in some cases figuratively, but most are literally *Dead Men Walking*. Take Brandon, for instance.

Anyway, it looks like Trump’s team is moving on to another economic strategy: making foreign investors in the U.S. bond market pay income taxes on their returns. If they don’t want to do that, their other options are U.S.-backed stablecoins — which will not be taxed under the newly passed *Genius Bill* — or Bitcoin, which cannot be taxed. To me, this is the best option I can think of. It will be fun to watch.

I haven’t yet had time to look at the “done China Treaty.”

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby careinke » Mon 16 Jun 2025, 02:53:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
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I do wonder what the reasons are, the ones people think about when they vote for the President.

The good news is, we vote our President. And you? Just stay on your knees Unlucky, it is hard....that voting thing. Your King thanks you.

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Speaking of the NO Kings protest (sort of): :) Remember listen to both sides.

Here is a reply, I'm having to manually type it in for some reason. BY Morgan Merek:

No kings but put your mask on.
No kings but lock us down.
No kings but I'm firing you for not vacinating.
No kings but you can't go outside.
No kings but we don't accept your exemption.
No kings but you need 12380 boosters.
No kings but we are shutting your business down.
No kings but can't worship the REAL King.
No kings but your family members will die alone.
No kings but I'm establishing a hot line so you can tattle on your neighbor.
No kings but mandates galore.
No kings but you're responsible for my health.
No kings but social distance six feet appart.
No kings but no family gatherings over 10'

The hypocrisy is astounding. Who is actually the tyrant here?


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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 16 Jun 2025, 12:53:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')The hypocrisy is astounding. Who is actually the tyrant here? [/size]
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The entire lock down thing really did throw a kink in the American story of personal freedom, didn't it?

I wonder sometimes if polio was still rampant, when the vaccine came out, how many people would go for it? When science is relegated to whether or not someone wants to believe it, I figure it is certainly a giant step towards the dumbing down of America. It has been going on for awhile in all sorts of ways, but nowadays the speed seems to have accelerated.

I seem to remember one of the lackeys to the Orange on saying that there are "alternatve facts", was it that scarecrow looking old blonde he was pushing in front of cameras during his first administration? Fits in perfectly with the modern meme of "if I don't want to beleive it, it obviously isn't true".

Lucky is just an Australian version, but America has a growing population just of this alternative reality group.
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 18 Jun 2025, 03:24:33

adam knows nothing about the world, the king of england has zero influence on what we do, we have an elected government just like over there. What the crown does, aside from owning a lot of corporate interests here, is add a check and balance for our political system. If say for example we decided we wanted to invade Iran and risk a nuclear war the Governor General, under the power of the king of england and by the constitution, has the power to dismiss the government. It happened once and is only used under extremes, in a deadlock that threatens the nation. But that is all he can do, he can't make laws or take over, only appoint a caretaker government before a new election.

Our system works and our lifestyle is the proof of that. Our nation is prosperous and booming, no shit in the streets, no gangs rampaging through neighborhoods, no political assassinations. Hell compared to the US we are Asgard on high.

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 18 Jun 2025, 03:37:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')The entire lock down thing really did throw a kink in the American story of personal freedom, didn't it?

Your freedom was only ever an illusion adam. You are free to go and die in foreign wars, free to be taxed to death, free to be exposed to fallout from nuclear tests, free to have your daughters share schools with animals and perverts. Free? People who are enslaved to debt are not free, they are the slaves of bankers. You are free to do as your told or get shot in the head by the US Marshalls or the FBI or the local Sheriffs or the city police or the state police or the DEA or the state troopers or the Dept of homeland security or the secret service and how ever many other agencies you have there with itchy trigger fingers. Talk about a police state! Your worse than Russia ever was.
Then of course you have the tens of thousands of gang bangers who'd just love to bust a cap into your White lower-middleclass head :P You have the freedom to carry a gun in your state? Well you better, you'll need it.

Dear oh dear oh dear, Freedom? Hahahahahahah
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 18 Jun 2025, 16:55:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'a')dam knows nothing about the world, the king of england has zero influence on what we do, we have an elected government just like over there.


The Monarchy of Australia.
The monarchy of Australia is a central component of Australia's system of government, by which a hereditary monarch serves as the country's sovereign and head of state.[1]

Get back on your knees where you belong....lacking the cajones to do what Americans did 250 years ago.

And you know HOW we know you have a King who is happy with you on your knees? Englad has two types of nuclear subs, those designed as a nuclear deterrent that carry AMERICAN missiles (because while the Brits might be able to walk, they still can't walk and chew gum at the same time) and the attack boats.

Guess what happened when the Brits did the building of those boats? Oops... IT BE SO HARD.....
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so they called in the Americans.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')In December 2003 the contract modifications were signed, with the MOD agreeing to add another £430 million to the programme and BAE Systems assuming £250 million of the cost overruns.[15] The MOD also enlisted the advice and expertise of General Dynamics Electric Boat through a U.S. Navy contract.[16] Eventually, a General Dynamics Electric Boat employee became the Astute Project Director at Barrow.[9]


So they called in the Americans, and then had to hire one of them to run getting the subs because...you know....England might rule the uneducated and half witted descendants of murderers and rapists in Australia, but they are still supplicants to their betters.

And then....because the half witted descendants of murderers and rapists in Australia can't build a decent FERRIS WHEEL let alone a nuke boat...their King and fearless leader decides to let Australia buy some nuke boats from the US. It will be a wonder if they can find anyone in the country smart enough to RUN one (we already know they aren't smart enough to BUILD one) and the US sounds like it might renege anyway. Seriously, handing a loading gun with a hair trigger to a 2 year old makes more sense than giving Paul Hogan a nuke boat.

So just stay on your knees like the rest of your countrymen and be happy Americans like you. And MAYBE America will loan you some weed addled teenagers to run your nuke boat until they can train up the smartest people in your country to do the job of just an average American swabbie.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ur system works and our lifestyle is the proof of that.


Yes...lifestyle. Lifestyle is good. And all you have to do to keep whatever it is, is to make sure that when the King needs servicing in your CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY, you and your Nazi buddies get on your knees as fast as everyone else.

Snap too Lucky....the Brits didn't create a prison island of murderers and misfits to lord it over....the true Brits who created a global empire created Australia to breed exactly the people to do it for them.

Enjoy your constitutional monarchy. And don't forget....if you keep learning and thinking....maybe a couple centuries from now you'll grow the cajones to say no and mean it, like Americans did. Centuries before.
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 18 Jun 2025, 19:40:35

It's not just my opinion` Many understand this quite well.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hile there are protections for American freedoms in the constitution, that is only protection from the government taking your freedoms. Meanwhile, capitalism and inequality are stripping your freedoms away, and there is nothing to protect you from that. Additionally, the freedoms protected by the constitution and bill of rights are not remarkably different to rights protections in many other western countries (save for 2A).

The whole idea that the USA is the freest country in the world is just a nationalistic lie.

I would add that government "regularly" takes away those written freedoms, the 2nd amendment a classic example.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ritics argue that the U.S. is governed by a system rife with corruption, deeply embedded in both the government and financial institutions. These institutions, they say, manipulate the economy to the detriment of everyday citizens, creating an environment where true freedom is out of reach.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Illusion of Freedom: We’re Only as Free as the Government Allows

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')merican Freedom is a Scam
Marketing overwork, isolation, and war


But of course you don't have to believe the evidence before your eyes...


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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/illusion ... -whitehead
https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/ame ... 5084eaf59b
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 18 Jun 2025, 21:13:32

Like I said

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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 21 Jun 2025, 16:41:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'L')ike I said


You don't say much of anything Polly. You babble. And post links.
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Re: THE Coal Thread pt 4

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 29 Jun 2025, 17:54:21

Cattle Herd Rebuild Begins Just As Consumers Get Slaughtered By Record Beef Prices
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')oreign-owned globalist meatpacking giant JBS—labeled a "modern-day monopoly" by Republican Senator Josh Hawley—has acknowledged that the U.S. cattle industry is in the beginning stages of rebuilding its decimated herd from seven-decade lows.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/major ... d-underway

That won't effect you though will it adam, been a long time since you enjoyed a real steak :o
The steaks I eat are from cattle reared in the hills around me, it's cheap, $20 a kilo for eye fillet when on special, rump is cheaper, I never eat T-bone, that's junk food.
Too bad you have a faulty governmental system that by design allows itself to be taken over by robber barons. You should have stayed with the Crown, you'd be living in luxury now, burning all the coal you needed, eating all the cheap steak you could handle. That's the benefit of being in a system where Lords and Gentlemen keep a weather eye over the rabble.
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