[vtsnowedin]

How many times have we seen a supposedly trained policeman empty a full clip into some perp that was already down after the first shot? Something about the adrenaline in a real shooting situation keeps the trigger finger twitching long after the need has ended.
But to be realistic few have the training or the nerves to use just one or two shots as needed. And as to gun size almost any pistol will do inside the confines of a building. Even a 25 automatic. It is not the size of the gun but the ability of the shooter as a perp missed with a 500 Ruger is just as missed as one with a 22 long rifle.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')Why is housing prices falling somewhat such a big problem. With all the complaining about housing prices rising, one would think housing prices falling to more moderate levels (without an outright rapid crash) would be a WELCOME thing.

[Newfie]

Thank Hod I have no real experience with in’s and out’s of shooting people. N my mind if you have to shoot someone you are having an extremely bad day.

I suspect it is very rare for someone to wake up in the morning and say “This is a great day to kill someone.” Typically some long chain of events has to happen to bring the event about.

Dvery time it happens there is massive failure. The gun, the bulletX the technique are just the last stages of a long, ling list of failures and missed opportunity for intervention. I feel a certain sympathy for all parties involved. No matter how justified it is likely to manor league screw up their life.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', 'N')ewfie - The big problem with popping off 9 rounds in a crowded restaurant is that all 9 rounds are going to hit something: the bad guy, the wall...or another customer.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ')But to be realistic few have the training or the nerves to use just one or two shots as needed. And as to gun size almost any pistol will do inside the confines of a building. Even a 25 automatic. It is not the size of the gun but the ability of the shooter as a perp missed with a 500 Ruger is just as missed as one with a 22 long rifle.

[Newfie]

I have heard a somewhat convincing argument for a 22WMR.
100 yard energy is about the same as a 22LR muzzle energy.
The difference on squirrel head shots is noticeable and significant.
Sounds like a better compromise.
I know they are available as revolvers but never looked at pistols.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') have heard a somewhat convincing argument for a 22WMR.
100 yard energy is about the same as a 22LR muzzle energy.
The difference on squirrel head shots is noticeable and significant.
Sounds like a better compromise.
I know they are available as revolvers but never looked at pistols.

[Newfie]

Intriguing but not needed. I prefer to live places where it is not needed.

I really feel sorry for Philadelphia. Was never good, seemed to be struggling forward. But the last decade or so has been backwards and gaining speed. Thrilled to be out.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') have heard a somewhat convincing argument for a 22WMR.
100 yard energy is about the same as a 22LR muzzle energy.
The difference on squirrel head shots is noticeable and significant.
Sounds like a better compromise.
I know they are available as revolvers but never looked at pistols.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'H')ow many times have we seen a supposedly trained policeman empty a full clip into some perp that was already down after the first shot? Something about the adrenaline in a real shooting situation keeps the trigger finger twitching long after the need has ended.
But to be realistic few have the training or the nerves to use just one or two shots as needed. And as to gun size almost any pistol will do inside the confines of a building. Even a 25 automatic. It is not the size of the gun but the ability of the shooter as a perp missed with a 500 Ruger is just as missed as one with a 22 long rifle.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'H')ow many times have we seen a supposedly trained policeman empty a full clip into some perp that was already down after the first shot? Something about the adrenaline in a real shooting situation keeps the trigger finger twitching long after the need has ended.
But to be realistic few have the training or the nerves to use just one or two shots as needed. And as to gun size almost any pistol will do inside the confines of a building. Even a 25 automatic. It is not the size of the gun but the ability of the shooter as a perp missed with a 500 Ruger is just as missed as one with a 22 long rifle.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')I will just point out that John Hinckley used a .22 to wound three people including President Reagan rapid firing his revolver even as the USSS tackled him to the ground. Note that none of the USSS nor any of the police officers present discharged their weapons.

[Newfie]

I do have 2 pistols, just because.
1911 each.

Edit to add quote,
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')
"45 ACP: Because a 9mm MIGHT expand, but a 45 will NEVER shrink.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') Yes but if Hinckley had used something bigger like a 9mm both Reagan and Brady would probably both been dead on the scene.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')hank Hod I have no real experience with in’s and out’s of shooting people. N my mind if you have to shoot someone you are having an extremely bad day.

[Newfie]

I can see the argument has some value. Yet, for me, it is because I am a hunter and have killed that I am adverse. I know what it looks like, I don’t want to do it to a human, nor do I want it done to me. Push come to shove I know how to do it, and will. I just don’t want to be in that place.

There is some irony in this discussion. I believe many Westerners mentally block where their meat comes from. They buy deboned, skinned chicken breast for a reason, and your “aversion” touches on that. For me there is a difference between eating a steak and a piece of venison I looked in the eye before I pulled the trigger. Then again, beef, chicken, ham or fish; I am always aware of the source of my protein, and try ti be a little bit respectful of their demise.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') do have 2 pistols, just because.
1911 each.

Edit to add quote,
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')
"45 ACP: Because a 9mm MIGHT expand, but a 45 will NEVER shrink.

[Newfie]

My goal is to not he there when it goes sideways.

I harbor no fantasy of being a hero.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'M')y goal is to not he there when it goes sideways.
I harbor no fantasy of being a hero.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') can see the argument has some value. Yet, for me, it is because I am a hunter and have killed that I am adverse.