[FireJack]

I never really thought of that but im not sure what they would hit exactly. I can't think of anything that would affect oil prices signifigatly.

We don't steal their resources, we pay for them. Saudi Arabians aren't exactly short on oil themselves, or money for that matter. Al-Queada seems to be more about hate mongering and revenge and the spreading of their fundy views on religion than anything else.

[MD]

I have wondered at the relentless attacks on Iraqi oil infrastructure yet there seems to be none anywhere else.

[dub_scratch]

Here's a simple answer: there is no Al-Qaeda.

Al-Qaeda is a figment of the imagination of our government and the press. They have taken a fairly small group of rag tag Islamic rebels who conduct terrorist activities and they have molded them into a mostly fictitious organization with "global reach".

More over, the rotten Republican government have found that this overblown myth of Al-Qaeda is useful for political reasons, i.e. Iraq. All of the stream of info about this so called Al-Qaeda comes from our government & its press. So why don't you hear about Al-Qaeda's acknowledgment of peak oil? Simple: the rotten Republican government has no use for such.

[doufus]

Why would they cripple their own societies by crippling oil infrastructure
and its income? individual suicides OK, but they're usually against
soft western targets and the bystanders are another ethnic group
(in iraq anyway). But taking out your whole country economically
is like handing it on a plate to the US.

[patmaster75]

I believe that there have been a few "attempts" to attack oil installations, pipelines and the like since US took over Iraq, I dont know how successfull they have been.

I agree that they would cause more (longer term) damage to the oil dependant countries (Saudi Arabia etc included - they are dependant in a different way - they are just as dependant on oil - that is their main export) would have thought driving a inflatable boat into an oil tanker docked at a oil port would be a pretty tempting target. I think that US & UK have quite alot of resources tied up protecting these sorts of assets as well....

<edit> but then they could be just a fictional element just as mentioned above - after all we havent got Bin Laden yet and its almost 4 years since the WTC bombing!!!! </edit>

[MD]

It's just ludicrous to claim AL Quaida is a republican construct. Stop taking those paranoia drugs.

[dub_scratch]

I did not say that Islamic terroism was a Republican construct. What I said was that the myth of Al-Qaeda was Republican construct. It is they who are taking too many paranoia drugs, not me.

[doufus]

Attacks against oil infrastructure in iraq have been ongoing and quite
successful. I believe that oil production is still at pre war levels i.e.
nowhere near enough. Attacking this inf. in Iraq makes sense since
it cripples US intentions and makes the place look an even worse F. up.

Destroying other arab economies is not something AQ or islam would
want. In those countries they attack westerners or arabs tied to
western interests i.e. tourist operaptions.

[seldom_seen]

Is it possible they don't have any geologists on staff? They seem pretty preoccupied with the jihad, to the point where some arcane geological issues are just plain boring in comparison.

Their funding comes right from the oil in the ground in SA. They probably don't want to see that dry up anymore than the rest of SA.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dub_scratch', 'I') did not say that Islamic terroism was a Republican construct. What I said was that the myth of Al-Qaeda was Republican construct. It is they who are taking too many paranoia drugs, not me.

[Carlhole]

It would have been very damaging to US plans to plant a larger footprint in the Persian Gulf had Bin Laden steadfastly denied al-Quaeda involvement in 911, instead stating on his video releases that 911 was a US inside job designed to provide popular support for invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and possibly other Muslim territories.

Several former Soviet leaders at the time had made claims of that nature, so it couldn't have been something that simply would not have occurred to Bin Laden or al-Quaeda leadership: Don't take credit for the attacks - state that they are false flags ops and blame them on Bush/Cheney and the pro-Israeli Neocons.

It would have been very damaging to US goals in Central Asia and the Middle East had al-Quaeda done so. He could have made a video ridiculing the idea of 19 Jihadis foiling the US Air Defnse and he would have been believable worldwide. As it turned out, Bin Laden merely expressed wicked glee over the attacks, never formally taking credit for them.

He became a convenient boogie man.

[dub_scratch]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dub_scratch', 'I') did not say that Islamic terroism was a Republican construct. What I said was that the myth of Al-Qaeda was Republican construct. It is they who are taking too many paranoia drugs, not me.

[MD]

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Then why aren't all the efforts aimed at U.S. oil refineries or ports?

[honeylocust]

Maybe people should read a book called "The War on Truth" for a deeper understanding of Al-Qaeda. If, that is, evidence or history is of interest.

[Tyler_JC]

So is Osama supposed to log on to the internet and google "peak oil" like the rest of us?

I don't even think Afghanistan has regular electricity, let along DSL service!

Expecting a terrorist organization to know about a fringe internet subject is like expecting the school nurse to know how to operate on a brain tumor.

And I don't think Osama has a PR guy to help him craft his message for the public. And where is he going to find the time to hire a geologist?

I mean honestly people, think about this a bit...

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('honeylocust', 'M')aybe people should read a book called "The War on Truth" for a deeper understanding of Al-Qaeda. If, that is, evidence or history is of interest.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'S')o is Osama supposed to log on to the internet and google "peak oil" like the rest of us?

I don't even think Afghanistan has regular electricity, let along DSL service!

Expecting a terrorist organization to know about a fringe internet subject is like expecting the school nurse to know how to operate on a brain tumor.

And I don't think Osama has a PR guy to help him craft his message for the public. And where is he going to find the time to hire a geologist?

I mean honestly people, think about this a bit...

[Tyler_JC]

Who says Osama has to outsmart anyone?

When our protectors drop the shield, sh*t happens.

Then they can blame it on terrorists and go conquer the world.

Bush didn't plan 9/11. Actually, he couldn't plan Ramon Noodles...

Cheney didn't plan 9/11, he simply allowed it to happen so that he could use it as an excuse to accomplish the goals of the Project for the New American Century.

[doufus]

Blowing up oil infrastructure in the west would indeed be sensible for
Al Qaida but these targets are hard these days post 9-11. You
would need to get some decent RPGs or mortars into the country
because of the security barriers. That's harder than getting some
nitrate fertilizer, diesel and dets. US farmers use this combo every
day. using this against soft targets is a v. effective way of terrorising
the pop'n. The ecocnomic impact is also significant and the political
pressure quite daunting.

A half dozen people in the london attacks did pretty well. Also, the pop
knows it's unstoppable. You could impede attacks on facilities with
draconian security. Hard to protect the pop from fellow travellers with
back packs or sudden obesity.

[SupplyConcerns]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'S')o is Osama supposed to log on to the internet and google "peak oil" like the rest of us?

I don't even think Afghanistan has regular electricity, let along DSL service!

Expecting a terrorist organization to know about a fringe internet subject is like expecting the school nurse to know how to operate on a brain tumor.

And I don't think Osama has a PR guy to help him craft his message for the public. And where is he going to find the time to hire a geologist?

I mean honestly people, think about this a bit...