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Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 11 Sep 2022, 16:29:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'D')oes it really matter which egomanic old fart is President?

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Going by the differences in the economy between one old fart and the present one it really does.
It would be nice to have the parties all jump down to candidates in their fifties, left center and right so we might have a chance of them truly being competent during a crisis.
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Unread postby C8 » Sun 11 Sep 2022, 19:35:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'D')oes it really matter which egomanic old fart is President?

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Going by the differences in the economy between one old fart and the present one it really does.
It would be nice to have the parties all jump down to candidates in their fifties, left center and right so we might have a chance of them truly being competent during a crisis.


Both parties massively overspend and put the rich ahead of everyone else. Democracy is a system of govt. where the wealthy have all the power. In a dictatorship, it is possible that the dictator can take on the rich- but this is not an option in a democracy where money controls elections.

I am not advocating dictatorship- simply uncovering that democracy is really just a more pleasing name for oligarchy. The US is ruled by oligarchs and corporations- not by the people. We engage in a massive game of pretend b/c a deep realization of this fact by the masses would lead to revolution or collapse from disengagement by the public.

Once the Republicans are eliminated as a national party (which will happen in a decade) then the real battle will begin between corporate Democrats and socialist Democrats. The Socialists will not be dispensed with as easily as the Republicans were, as they organize well and punch above their weight in primary elections when most people don't vote. Plus they have real inroads into academia, the media and unions.

A very viscous battle is coming.
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Re: General News of Social Breakdown in the US: Thread

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Sep 2022, 03:06:59

The rich do not simply buy elections. They must use their money to persuade a majority of the middle and poorer classes to actually vote for their candidate. Easy enough to do in good times when people are employed at reasonable wages and feel that they are getting ahead.
But let times get hard enough that people become convinced the government is doing a poor job of it and the voters will become cynical and take every political add with several grains of salt.
There probably will be a revolution in the USAs future but it will be fought over the media and at the ballot box.
So yes the rich have power and influence and will tend to stay in power and create and accumulate more riches but they must use that power carefully to not have it taken away from them by the voters.
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Unread postby Newfie » Mon 12 Sep 2022, 06:59:45

C8,

Maybe. But there is also a strong possibility the Right will find new allies in the center city ghettos and Latin wards. I was just reading that Mexican immigrants are among the most anti-immigrant groups. And the Baptist church is strong in the inner city. We read about the gang bangers, but there are also lots of decent folks there. The R’s just need a candidate who can resonate with them.
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Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Sep 2022, 09:02:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'C')8,

Maybe. But there is also a strong possibility the Right will find new allies in the center city ghettos and Latin wards. I was just reading that Mexican immigrants are among the most anti-immigrant groups. And the Baptist church is strong in the inner city. We read about the gang bangers, but there are also lots of decent folks there. The R’s just need a candidate who can resonate with them.

I think the election of Texas Congresswoman Mayra Flores is a perfect example of that possibility. If the Republicans can distance themselves from Trump and concentrate on crime,inflation,education, and energy policy I think they can move ahead and gain support from working people.
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Unread postby C8 » Mon 12 Sep 2022, 17:44:47

I believe that a Mexican/Black rescue of the R's is something of an illusion the right comforts itself with. I have watched Mexican politics for some time- the way Mexicans protest bad conditions is by going on a vote strike (not voting). This is due to the insurmountable odds of winning against the machine in Mexico. Unfortunately, this cultural response dies hard and has traveled with them- Mexicans just don't show up at the polls.

Unlike the Dems, the R's have a horrible get out the vote machine. Most R's spit on the ground when they see a Mexican immigrant and don't do any outreach. Dems are buying up the Latino radio stations and extending their air superiority in Florida and Texas. R's never seem to understand the importance of this- there is a reason they are nicknamed the "stupid party".

Its chess vs. checkers- R's are simply being outsmarted and out hustled at every turn. There is something about the conservative mind that is so independent and self reliant that it can't grasp the importance of organizing. Politics is a team sport- loners get run over. The symbol of R's shouldn't be the elephant, but the mammoth.
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Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Sep 2022, 19:13:24

Is it possible that Mexicans that have migrated to the US under severe conditions might want to do it a different way then they were forced to do in Mexico?
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Unread postby jedrider » Tue 13 Sep 2022, 19:23:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'I')ts chess vs. checkers- R's are simply being outsmarted and out hustled at every turn.


Except how the R's so masterfully commandeered the Bible vote. D's did ignore them, however, which did allow the Republicans to step right in.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 04 Jan 2024, 16:48:31

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 2686966805

How dare they try and jail a black man for violent crimes.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 24 Apr 2024, 18:17:18

Migrants Gone Wild On Streets Of Midtown Manhattan

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') pack of illegal aliens viciously fought each other with sticks, belts, and whatever they could get their hands on outside a migrant hotel in Midtown Manhattan. The Row is one of many hotels and shelters converted to house illegal aliens in NYC from the open southern border. About 200,000 migrants have flooded the city since early 2022. There are as many as 64,000 in these shelters.

"Must be such joy to live in that NYC cesspool. Between the crime; looting, murders, sucker punching - and now the feral illegal aliens…..just lovely," one X user said, referring to the video.

https://twitter.com/CANELATRD/status/17 ... 8115550601
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Re: General News of Social Breakdown in the US: Thread

Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 14 Jun 2024, 05:26:55

Which Countries Have Universal Health Coverage?

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), Universal Health Coverage (UHC) means that everyone has access to a full range of health services - from emergency interventions to palliative care - without financial difficulty.

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Unread postby mousepad » Fri 14 Jun 2024, 06:26:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'W')hich Countries Have Universal Health Coverage?

That means nothing. And what's your point?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')ithout financial difficulty.


I dare you to try universal healthcare in mexico. A total joke of overloaded incompetence. If you have a serious medical condition you will die waiting for service, or they will kill you with their incompetence. If you need serious medical attention, it's private clinics and you pay hard cash, ponied up by expats in the US.

Similar, (but not as bad) in several european countries (including germany). Service you get is good, but the wait time is so long (multiple years) for certain procedures that you can't call this quality service anymore. There's a reason why wealthy individuals in europe pick up free market secondary health insurances and go to private clinics for treatment.

The individualistic approach in the US ain't bad per se. But somewhere along the way the cost got completely out of control. Some reform is overdue.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Fri 14 Jun 2024, 23:23:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '
')That means nothing. And what's your point?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')ithout financial difficulty.

I dare you to try universal healthcare in mexico... Similar, (but not as bad) in several european countries (including germany).

What's your point?

Universal health care (UHC) is a system that aims to provide quality health services to all people without financial hardship.

Clearly you don't have that in America, if you did people wouldn't need to travel to Mexico for common medications, Or move permanently to Germany. I didn't invent the story, it's a well known fact. I only posted it because there are some good people on the forum and I'd like to see them wake up and emigrate before it's too late.

Americans Cross Border Into Mexico To Buy Insulin At A Fraction Of U.S. Cost
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/american ... -u-s-cost/

Type 1 diabetics need insulin to live, but prices for some brands in the U.S. have tripled or more over the last 10 years. That's not the case in Mexico. In fact, the cost disparity is so huge that it's sending American diabetics south of the border. https://www.vice.com/en/article/8xzyy4/ ... rom-mexico

Postcard From Germany: Moved For School, Stayed For Insulin

West, 30, has had type 1 diabetes since she was three years old. Back in Seattle, where she used to live, she typically paid $70 per month for insulin and another $130 for pump supplies. That was a relative steal in the U.S., made possible by her excellent health insurance, which she got through her employer. But still, it was a financial strain.

In Germany, she pays about €10, roughly $11. Every three months. “I don’t ever have to worry,” she says. “There is not a day I ever have to worry about if I can pay for something, or manage something.”[/b] https://time.com/5706668/insulin-pricing-us-germany/
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Unread postby careinke » Sat 15 Jun 2024, 06:56:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mousepad', '
')That means nothing. And what's your point?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')ithout financial difficulty.

I dare you to try universal healthcare in mexico... Similar, (but not as bad) in several european countries (including germany).

What's your point?

Universal health care (UHC) is a system that aims to provide quality health services to all people without financial hardship.

Clearly you don't have that in America, if you did people wouldn't need to travel to Mexico for common medications, Or move permanently to Germany. I didn't invent the story, it's a well known fact. I only posted it because there are some good people on the forum and I'd like to see them wake up and emigrate before it's too late.

Americans Cross Border Into Mexico To Buy Insulin At A Fraction Of U.S. Cost
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/american ... -u-s-cost/

Type 1 diabetics need insulin to live, but prices for some brands in the U.S. have tripled or more over the last 10 years. That's not the case in Mexico. In fact, the cost disparity is so huge that it's sending American diabetics south of the border. https://www.vice.com/en/article/8xzyy4/ ... rom-mexico

Postcard From Germany: Moved For School, Stayed For Insulin

West, 30, has had type 1 diabetes since she was three years old. Back in Seattle, where she used to live, she typically paid $70 per month for insulin and another $130 for pump supplies. That was a relative steal in the U.S., made possible by her excellent health insurance, which she got through her employer. But still, it was a financial strain.

In Germany, she pays about €10, roughly $11. Every three months. “I don’t ever have to worry,” she says. “There is not a day I ever have to worry about if I can pay for something, or manage something.”[/b] https://time.com/5706668/insulin-pricing-us-germany/


All of your links are from 2019. Are you living in some kind of time warp? FYI it's 2024. Insulin in the US is now $35/month.

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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 15 Jun 2024, 09:08:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', ' ')FYI it's 2024. Insulin in the US is now $35/month.

So they threw you a bone on that one medication, lucky you. What about all the rest, and doctors fees, hospital costs. Do you have free ambulance services like here? It seems not?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ith insurance, the average out-of-pocket cost for an ambulance ride is $450, but it can exceed $1,000 in some states, according to a report on the high cost of ambulance surprise bills from the U.S. PIRG Education Fund.

here's a more recent accounting, 2024

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he fact remains that The United States spends at least 40% more on health care per person than any other country in the world.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... witzerland

Why don't you face these facts? Why keep trying to fudge things to make the situation look better than it is?
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Re: General News of Social Breakdown in the US: Thread

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 28 Aug 2024, 17:16:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'A')ll of your links are from 2019. Are you living in some kind of time warp?


Right you are, lets get up to date.

If Everything Is So Great, Why Are Millions Of Americans Sleeping In Their Vehicles?

https://x.com/i/status/1827878300884353514
"In the greatest nation on earth" the woman says. (Hint, She's been Gaslighted)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ave you noticed an unusual number of vehicles in the parking lots of major retailers in your area at night? If you look closely enough, you will see that many of those vehicles actually have people sleeping in them. At this point, millions of Americans are sleeping in their vehicles every night. This is happening even though we are being told that the economy is just fine. But of course the truth is that the system is failing all around us. So if you get to sleep in a very warm bed in a very warm home, you should consider yourself to be very blessed
https://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/if- ... -vehicles/


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