[theluckycountry]

An interesting article discussing the flow on effects of the Ukraine debacle.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... industries

https://goldbroker.com/news/industrial- ... tives-2792

If the energy supply situation is not resolved quickly, the German industrial sector may collapse this fall.

Without Russian gas, there is no chemistry, and without chemistry there is no industry.

Faced with the explosion of the energy bill, the industrial machine across the Rhine has already suffered a severe slowdown. In the space of a few weeks, Germany's trade balance went from a surplus to a deficit. The trend reversal is even more sudden than during the Covid crisis. For the first time since 1990, Germany has recorded a trade deficit!

https://www.businessinsider.com/germany ... uts-2022-7

[jato0072]

20 years ago, when I found out about Peak Oil I had never dreamed the West would practically commit industrial suicide. This whole Great Reset / Green New Deal is a real downer.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
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[i]If the energy supply situation is not resolved quickly, the German industrial sector may collapse this fall.

Without Russian gas, there is no chemistry, and without chemistry there is no industry.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jato0072', '2')0 years ago, when I found out about Peak Oil I had never dreamed the West would practically commit industrial suicide.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')We all know we need to power down, to get off oil and gas, what better way than create a bogey man in Russia, then cook up this moralistic anti-war crap, and during all the hoopla, collapse your industrial economies back to a level commensurate with the realities of fossil fuel supplies. That's what we saw for a year and more over the covid scam, hundreds of millions of people, not driving, not flying.

Everyone nearly, 90%, believed in the lockdown BS, but it doesn't matter what you believe, at the end of the day we used a lot less fossil fuels and we're back in the same place now, high prices, lower consumption. All following a managed plan to power down society just at the last minute before the gas stations started to run out due to supply demand issues.

I don't believe in coincidences and I don't believe the governments of the world were ignorant of peak oil these last decades as many of the peakoil gurus claimed. They knew, they had plans, they just didn't want to reveal them to the little people.

[jato0072]

I don't think there is evidence that Russia / Putin are involved with any WEF conspiracies, I just think the WEF is using these crises to accelerated their Great Reset agenda. Anyway, it doesn't really matter what happened, things have clearly been accelerating since 2020 and virtually nobody responsible will be held accountable. What matters for Germany is survival (personal, family, community, state and country). The Global American Empire (GAE) is in decline.

Right, wrong or in different, Russia was provoked to war (see Cuban Missile Crisis in which another satellite "sovereign nation" was used to provoke the US).

[EnergyUnlimited]

Americans are clever people.
When they see NG prices rising, they are blowing up their own gas refineries.
That will even more constrict supplies, pump prices up and make a killing while selling hardly any gas at all.

Poor little Germans, they will have freezing cold winter, 3rd year La Nina will see to these ends.
They are already dimming lights and closing hot water supply to residential areas of major cities.
There are talks that during winter their clumsy urbanites may expect no more than 17*C.
In reality they will be lucky to get 14*C...

Climate is turning hotter and German homes are turning colder... such a sweet paradox.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')
I don't believe the TPTB cooked up inflation and fuel shortages and then Russia and the west mutually agreed to have a war in Ukraine just to collapse global economies.

You just couldn't keep a conspiracy like that secret.

I think its much simpler..... Putin is just the latest totalitarian megalomaniac to see himself as a great conquerer

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')This is why the west hates Russia and Putin, or at least the Americans do. It's been ingrained into you to hate them. Here in Australia the average person couldn't care less about Russia or Putin, it's never spoken of except in the mass media, that everyone takes with a pinch of salt anyway.

[cephalotus]

Well, winter 2022/23 will get interesting in Germany.

There will be a gas shortaage and natural gas prices are very high.

I guess we will have to lower the room temperatures in winter, industry and power plants already reduced gas consumption. Peok oil pornography, who would have thought that!

That's the simulation of our gas storage during next winter in different scenarios: (in Geman)

https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Fac ... onFile&v=3

Also very intersting / annoing is the fact, that during the biggest energy crises in Europe France is not able to produce (nuclear) electricity and has to import huge amounts. 32 out of 56 french nuclear power plants have been shut down, some of the remaining are only running on reduced power during the heat waves, because they boil their rivers.

Afaik there is no plan how France will get them online again till winter and France has always been an electricity importer during cold winter days even when the nujes are producing. In 22/23 this could become a problem. Forcast eletricity prices for France have already reached at 1€/kWh for December 2022.

[cephalotus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')This is why the west hates Russia and Putin, or at least the Americans do. It's been ingrained into you to hate them. Here in Australia the average person couldn't care less about Russia or Putin, it's never spoken of except in the mass media, that everyone takes with a pinch of salt anyway. You guys are the victims of an 80 year propaganda campaign. The Russians are to you what the Jews were to Germany in 1940.

[Tuike]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cephalotus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'P')utin has become Hitler of the 21st century, he will never stop with his invasion of Europe, until he is beaten.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t isn't as though a bunch of banana benders could do anything about it without our benign protection, lets be honest, without protection from the world's largest economy and best military and largest producer of oil and gas and whatnot, New Zealand would invade you one weekend, turn Tasmania into a prison colony and put all you folks already familiar with this scheme there.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t isn't as though a bunch of banana benders could do anything about it without our benign protection, lets be honest, without protection from the world's largest economy and best military and largest producer of oil and gas and whatnot, New Zealand would invade you one weekend, turn Tasmania into a prison colony and put all you folks already familiar with this scheme there.

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cephalotus', 'W')ell, winter 2022/23 will get interesting in Germany.

There will be a gas shortaage and natural gas prices are very high.

I guess we will have to lower the room temperatures in winter, industry and power plants already reduced gas consumption. Peok oil pornography, who would have thought that!

That's the simulation of our gas storage during next winter in different scenarios: (in Geman)

https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Fac ... onFile&v=3

Also very intersting / annoing is the fact, that during the biggest energy crises in Europe France is not able to produce (nuclear) electricity and has to import huge amounts. 32 out of 56 french nuclear power plants have been shut down, some of the remaining are only running on reduced power during the heat waves, because they boil their rivers.

Afaik there is no plan how France will get them online again till winter and France has always been an electricity importer during cold winter days even when the nujes are producing. In 22/23 this could become a problem. Forcast eletricity prices for France have already reached at 1€/kWh for December 2022.

[cephalotus]

I assume that I'm not able to understand your question.

It's a free market. Anyone can charge whatever they want, but to sell something you need a buyer who is willing to pay the price.

And sure, many European solar- and wind power plants are earning crazy money at the moment.

Solar power in Germany was worth someting around 3-4ct/kWh for many years, 1ct/kWh in the early days of Covid 19 and in June it was 18.9ct/kWh.

https://www.netztransparenz.de/EEG/Mark ... Marktwerte (in German)