[entropyfails]

In times like these, I think we should remember the ever relevant words of They Might Be Giants. If you cannot understand this deeply, then we will have a problem.

From Flood, I present... Women & Men.

When the ship runs out of ocean
And the vessel runs aground
Land's where we know the boat is found
Now there's nothing unexpected
About the water giving out
"Land's" not a word we have to shout.

But there's something beside the shoreline
Moving across the beachhead
Coming up from the shipwreck
Making as if to say:

Women & Men
Women & Men
Women & Men
Women & Men

(Women & Men) Bringing with them messages of love
And every where they go love will grow (love will grow)
(Women & Men) When you see the faces of the women
And the men, you too will know (you will know)

Women & Men have crossed the ocean
They now begin to pour
Out from the boat and up the shore
Two by two they enter the jungle
And soon they number more
Three by three as well as four by four
Soon the stream of people gets wider
Then it becomes a river
River becomes an ocean
Carrying ships that bear

Women & Men
Women & Men
Women & Men
Women & Men

[jato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you cannot understand this deeply, then we will have a problem.

[entropyfails]

I don't want to spoil the text or your mind with my worthless interpretation. How about I pose that question back at you? What do you think it means? Give me your analysis please.

I consider it one of the great songs that can easily tell apart those that will help out of the path that we have chosen and who will make our problems worse.

So lets see what you have in you. *smile* I invite everybody to try!

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[jato]

It has a Noah's Ark theme to it...errr I think....dunno. My brain is melting! Even master Google could not come up with the analysis!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') consider it one of the great songs that can easily tell apart those that will help out of the path that we have chosen and who will make our problems worse.

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jato', 'I')t has a Noah's Ark theme to it...errr I think....dunno. My brain is melting! Even master Google could not come up with the analysis!

So, which side am I on? :D

[jato]

Two by two has a Noah theme as well.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')oon the stream of people gets wider
Then it becomes a river
River becomes an ocean
Carrying ships that bear

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jato', 'T')wo by two has a Noah theme as well.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')oon the stream of people gets wider
Then it becomes a river
River becomes an ocean
Carrying ships that bear

[Leanan]

Gee, I thought it was a song about overpopulation.

[Guest]

TMBG rules! I used to think it was about missionaries, but I never really gave their lyrics much thought
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '(')Women & Men) Bringing with them messages of love
And every where they go love will grow (love will grow)

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'G')ee, I thought it was a song about overpopulation.

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anonymous', 'T')MBG rules! I used to think it was about missionaries, but I never really gave their lyrics much thought
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '(')Women & Men) Bringing with them messages of love
And every where they go love will grow (love will grow)

[jato]

My brain has reached peak lyrical decoding and I am in decline.

[rallyman]

My take on this is....we have men and women getting off a boat and going into the jungle....this boat is probably a sailing ship.....so what we have here is a post peak "Fantasy Island" for swingers with lots of "group action" going on (2x2, 4x4)..."Da boat boss, Da boat!" (insert vision of a short man in a white suit pointing out to sea)........

all in all this may not be so bad of an idea, as all this swapping action will help keep the gene pool from getting so shallow that all our family trees are circles....i.e. we don't have a bunch of inbreds running around whats left of the planet......

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jato', 'M')y brain has reached peak lyrical decoding and I am in decline.

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rallyman', 'M')y take on this is....we have men and women getting off a boat and going into the jungle....this boat is probably a sailing ship.....so what we have here is a post peak "Fantasy Island" for swingers with lots of "group action" going on (2x2, 4x4)..."Da boat boss, Da boat!" (insert vision of a short man in a white suit pointing out to sea)........

all in all this may not be so bad of an idea, as all this swapping action will help keep the gene pool from getting so shallow that all our family trees are circles....i.e. we don't have a bunch of inbreds running around whats left of the planet......

[Matrim]

I think the vessel represents our lives both as individuals and humanity as a whole. And sometimes the vessel will run aground and times will be hard you might have to fight off the uglier aspects of humanity but their will always be some women and men and eventually they'll right that vessel and it'll float again.

I think it means that the human mind is to grand a thing to simply let itself be lost.

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Matrim', 'I') think the vessel represents our lives both as individuals and humanity as a whole. And sometimes the vessel will run aground and times will be hard you might have to fight off the uglier aspects of humanity but their will always be some women and men and eventually they'll right that vessel and it'll float again.

I think it means that the human mind is to grand a thing to simply let itself be lost.

[Josephus]

As it applies to this site and what we discuss here, the boat can represent the world we know today and the ocean is the civilization and ideas that have brought this boat to a distant shore. The New World the boat lands on is the Eden we hope for after the worst of the worst happens (whatever the worst will be). Lessons have been learned from our voyage to this place and hopefully we can finally live in a stable (land) world of peace and love instead of it just being a idea or story passed around on the trip over.
That's my interpretation anyway, we all know art and lyrics are subjective.

[entropyfails]

I'll have to give you an insight award! *grin* I would sum up the salient points as follows.

The boat represents civilization. While some people think it will float forever, honestly we all should not feel so surprised that it will eventually hit land. We do not have to shout "Land!" Likewise, we do not have to shout "Doom!" when it comes to Peak Oil. We know our journey always brings us back to solid earth. So for the "doomers", you can chill. The boat always hits land. Civilizations always end.

As we leave the shipwrecked civilization, we will form new ways of life. Some will return to the "jungle", ie normal life for everything else, in 2x2 groups. Some 3x3, 4x4, whatever. We not longer will demand that everyone will be like us. Why would it bother us that someone lives a different way? Your tribe has one way of dealing with life, mine has another. Why do we need these to have exactly the same rules?

Those of us who survive the shipwreck and walk away will have a changed view towards life. We will finally realize that love and peace can spread in our world without a "boat." We will take this as our message and you will see the looks on our faces showing we have found that love. And we will have joy and relief that the endless confining voyage has ended.

More and more people will walk away from the boat. And our movement will grow. We will form a stream, then a river, then an ocean. And our movement will bring those who have not left their boats to land. It will have love and light and all the joy in it. It will take work, though. The jungle takes more work from us and carrying the boats of the others will take work as well. But love triumphs in the end. How could we believe it otherwise?

So work in love, live for the moment, and care about the very things we have forgotten in our boat.

Women & Men.

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[TheSupplyGuy]

Wow, I feel like I actually learned something. I suppose analyzing poetry(well songs are just poetry with music) would help me a little bit with AP English.