[Newfie]

It was refreshing, and somewhat stressful, to have the conversation with some folks (not all of them) who were thinking about it, or at least some of it.

But I tend to agree, most folks just don’t think very deeply if at all. Then again that’s a preconception I have not sufficiently checked out. Not that I intend to invest the required energy to do so. I do get the sense that folks are not quite as asleep as they seem, yet they are far from fully woke.

I hope that should a national conversation arise the public would pay attention, it may if it’s a truly thoughtful conversation on an important matter, say immigration. But the partisan bickering forecloses such opportunities.

[Ibon]

There is just so much time in a day, so much time and space available in ones mortal life which just seems to accelerate faster toward the end the older you get.

More and more I surrender over to emerging generations the course the juggernaut of humanity will take. There is a bit of relief accepting ones obsolescence.

Regarding politics and media, next to the sun emerging over the ridge top, the chorus of bird song, it all seems so banal and not worthy of the fleeting time remaining.

[onlooker]

I believe Kaiser would strongly object, but viewing the totality of humanity its accomplishments and turmoil, the more I see our limitations and how our lack of humility has prevented us collectively from seeing them. One of my favorite quotes is from E.O Wilson " The problem with humans is we have paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions and godlike technology"

[lpetrich]

‘It’s Fox News viewers vs. everyone else,’ new poll concludes - MarketWatch a poll taken by NBC news and the Wall Street Journal.

It asked about concern about future Russian electoral interference, whether the Mueller Report cleared Trump, whether Trump has been honest about the Russia probe, and how approving of Trump. It polled watchers of broadcast news media, Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC. The watchers of broadcast, CNN, and MSNBC clustered together, with watchers of Fox News standing out as pro-Trump.

[Cog]

Fox news has more viewers than CNN or MSNBC. I wonder what you make of that.

[lpetrich]

But CNN and MSNBC and the broadcast networks aren't going broke. Furthermore, their combined number of viewers is greater than for Fox News.

Fox News wins cable news ratings race for 69th consecutive quarter | TheHill
Prime time: Fox = 2.45 M, MSNBC = 1.91 M, CNN = 1.06 M, MSNBC+CNN = 2.97 M
25-54: FOX = 421 K, MSNBC = 333 K, CNN = 308 K, MSNBC+CNN = 641 K

[onlooker]

Such a waste. Arguing over which side of the corporate coin is better or more popular. And the elites keep laughing hysterically

[Tanada]

Here is a prime example of how awful reporting in North America has become.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he New York Daily News is a very Left wing paper.

Remember they are the ones that published multiple front page images of the NRA president as a terrorist or blaming terrorist attacks on the NRA.

Well, today is the 50th Anniversary of the launch of Apollo 11.

This was the Tweet they sent out:

I didn’t know it was possible to get so much wrong in 140 characters while trying to be factual.

At least the moon landing conspiracy theorists get the name of the astronaut right.

Then it dawned on me.

The moon landing is one of the most heavily documented events in modern American history. There are more books and documentaries about it than I can count. Still, some New York Daily News staffer decides to shoot a Tweet from the hip and bumblefucks it.

So out there is some millennial staffer who, literally, everything he knows is wrong. Just factually wrong. And he thinks it’s right. Right enough to send his wrongness out into the world unchecked.

Then there was this from a couple of days ago. A millennial writer had a breakdown because her editor told her that hamster was spelled “hamster” and not “hampster” and the writer believed that her work was perfect without editing and that her way of spelling wasn’t wrong, just “creative.”

If you want to know why Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is why she is the way she is. Why millennials love socialism and believe President Trump is literally the second coming of Hitler and detention centers are actual Nazi concentration camps. Why politics has become so ridiculously stupid.

This is why.

We have a generation of kids who every thing they know is wrong. Factually inaccurate wrong.

And they think they are right enough to publish their wrongness with authority.

The good news is that I have come up with a plan to fix our nation.

Knowing the millennials’ propensity for wrongness, we just need to spend the next year-and-a-half convincing the internet that election day for everyone born after 1989 is the second Tuesday following the second Monday in November, like how in college upperclassman registration is on a different day than freshman registration.

I figure with a concerted effort on social media, we can right this ship easy in 2020.

[onlooker]

IRAN DRONE FOOTAGE
IRGC releases drone footage, belying US claim of downing
 https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/07/19/601318/Iran-drone-footage-USS-Boxer

[dissident]

https://www.newsweek.com/2019/08/02/issue.html

The 2016 "Russia meddling" scam is not over. Get ready for a repeat of the same BS in 2020. With the same D. Party perps and their MSM mouthpieces acting as the victims.

BTW, the DNC servers weren't hacked no matter how many times the D. Party loyalist MSM bleats it. Seth Rich used USB sticks to leak the dirty on Hillary's dirty campaign to Wikileaks. Seth Rich was murdered and his killing was never properly investigated. In fact, Donna Barzile openly meddled in the investigation of his murder. Julian Assange is being persecuted for "spying" even though Wikileaks never published any actual spying content (e.g. design of US hydrogen bombs) and every single leak it published amounts to 100% whistle-blowing about actual wrong-doing by western governments.

[dissident]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07- ... -reporters

What a coincidence. This is basically 1984 in action. Let's redefine reality to serve the agenda of the elites.

[dissident]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/buz ... plagiarism

Don't dismiss the rot in the mainstream mass media because the alt media is not ideal. The point is to have numerous free voices and not goose-stepping party-line propaganda. People with educations and functional brains can see the truth in the noise. The notion that dangerous opinions and speech need to be censored is Orwellian. It never stops at the "bad" elements, it always limits to total control.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'h')ttps://www.zerohedge.com/political/buzzfeed-reporter-who-got-zerohedge-banned-twitter-fired-plagiarism

Don't dismiss the rot in the mainstream mass media because the alt media is not ideal. The point is to have numerous free voices and not goose-stepping party-line propaganda. People with educations and functional brains can see the truth in the noise. The notion that dangerous opinions and speech need to be censored is Orwellian. It never stops at the "bad" elements, it always limits to total control.

[JuanP]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'h')ttps://www.zerohedge.com/political/buzzfeed-reporter-who-got-zerohedge-banned-twitter-fired-plagiarism

Don't dismiss the rot in the mainstream mass media because the alt media is not ideal. The point is to have numerous free voices and not goose-stepping party-line propaganda. People with educations and functional brains can see the truth in the noise. The notion that dangerous opinions and speech need to be censored is Orwellian. It never stops at the "bad" elements, it always limits to total control.

[dissident]

Shoot the messenger is not an argument.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', '[')b]Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Historical Low



http://www.gallup.com/poll/185927/ameri ... aign=tiles

[sparky]

.
from dissident
"The 2016 "Russia meddling" scam is not over. Get ready for a repeat of the same BS in 2020.
With the same D. Party perps and their MSM mouthpieces acting as the victims"

from the new york Times
" Russia secretly offered bounties to Afghan militants kill US troops "

It turn out the whole thing is a set up to make Trump look bad ( like if anyone needed to bother )
it confirm there are US intel people playing partisan politics

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', '.')
from dissident
"The 2016 "Russia meddling" scam is not over. Get ready for a repeat of the same BS in 2020.
With the same D. Party perps and their MSM mouthpieces acting as the victims"

from the new york Times
" Russia secretly offered bounties to Afghan militants kill US troops "

It turn out the whole thing is a set up to make Trump look bad ( like if anyone needed to bother )
it confirm there are US intel people playing partisan politics

[sparky]

.
it's actually worst than that
it is in the interest of Russia to have the US bleeding men and money in an unwinnable situation
the only people profiting from it are
- the war forever lobby
- the democratic Washington apparatus
- the new world order latest incarnation

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', 't')he whole thing is a set up to make Trump look bad