[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'N')o more NOAA data on CO2 and other gasses thanks to Trump's shutdown.

[Cid_Yama]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he House could send clean spending bills for different agencies one by one up for a vote

[GHung]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he House could send clean spending bills for different agencies one by one up for a vote

[GHung]

Seems this thread went POOF. Magic?

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', 'S')eems this thread went POOF. Magic?

[vtsnowedin]

I'm surprised that the local banks across the country that have Federal employee customers with direct deposit of their paychecks have not offered automatic payday loans equal to their usual check for say one percent a month interest. A nice gesture and good for customer relations with about as low a risk as any loan they could make.

[Cog]

It's too bad these posts weren't merged into a shutdown thread of more recent origin. If only such a thread existed. No wait.........

when-will-the-government-shutdown-end-t74314.html

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'I')'m surprised that the local banks across the country that have Federal employee customers with direct deposit of their paychecks have not offered automatic payday loans equal to their usual check for say one percent a month interest. A nice gesture and good for customer relations with about as low a risk as any loan they could make.

[vtsnowedin]

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[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')t's too bad these posts weren't merged into a shutdown thread of more recent origin. If only such a thread existed. No wait.........

when-will-the-government-shutdown-end-t74314.html

[Cog]

Ahh got it now.

[Cog]

Ok the plan is to pay February ebt benefits by January 20th. Then no payments will happen in February. All the ebt people have to do is budget their money out over 40 days. How hard could that be? LOL.

More at link

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/ ... wn-2491182

[Cog]

I don't get the Democrat position here. They are saying re-open the government then we can debate border security. Here is my question. Why can't they debate the issue right now during the shut-down?

Trump understands very well the shutdown is the only leverage he has. Democrats understand that too. More theatre.

Pelosi said we should cancel the state of the union address due to security concerns. Really Nancy? DHS has already said the can do the security necessary. If the Dems are afraid, they can stay home. Hell, I'll attend wearing my MAGA hat.

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') don't get the Democrat position here. They are saying re-open the government then we can debate border security. Here is my question. Why can't they debate the issue right now during the shut-down?

[KaiserJeep]

IMHO, this is only a little bit about the Wall or border security. What the shutdown is about is election 2020. Whoever caves over this issue allows the other party to dominate 2020. This is all about a perception of strength, and the whole Wall/No Wall is the excuse for the power struggle.

Too bad the USCG is no longer getting paid. They still have to rescue people and perform the other missions, while their families suffer. The other military services are still getting paid, because they funded DOD, but the USCG is part of Homeland Security, and has no funding.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') don't get the Democrat position here. They are saying re-open the government then we can debate border security. Here is my question. Why can't they debate the issue right now during the shut-down?

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here has been no debate about the wall. Pelosi has said she won't spend a penny on a wall. That is not a debate. That is an ultimatum. But hey, I'm fine with the federal government being shut down indefinitely.

[Cog]

There has been no floor debate on the wall funding. Pelosi would not allow it. But if the Dems want the government open tonight all they have to do is vote for wall funding. But since they won't, the misery for them will just get worse. I'm totally ok with the Dems being exposed as those who love illegals more than border security and those who are working unpaid to enforce it.

[jedrider]

This appears to be a constitutional flaw. This should not be allowed to happen as it has. There just HAS to be a tie breaker somewhere in the system, but where?? That is who is at fault. Maybe, it's the Republican controlled Senate (I don't understand the history of these shutdowns enough, though). Seems to me a the Senate always has 51 voting members, there can never be a stalemate. So, the Senate is looking to see who has more staying power, the Congress or the President? Seems cruel to me to go on with this. (But that's nothing new to our government nowadays. Last time something this momentous has happened were probably the labor riots in the 1930's (I don't remember when). That's obviously what it's going to take now, that the people DEMAND their government is reopened to serve the people (or the wealthy).

[KaiserJeep]

We don't need no stinkin' gov'mint.