[C8]

we need a film on the effects of a massive oil glut- that can cause as many problems as a shortage can. Its too bad film makers are so stuck on only a few select viewpoints on most issues.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'w')e need a film on the effects of a massive oil glut- that can cause as many problems as a shortage can. Its too bad film makers are so stuck on only a few select viewpoints on most issues.

[Revi]

This film is not going to be about predictions. It's about a guy who is obsessed with the idea of Peak Oil and how he relates to it. Here's another short promo. I think the music and approach is fun. It's a way to talk about a very difficult subject in a humorous way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYWLk9 ... e=youtu.be

I think this film will appeal to a much wider audience than the usual dark prognostication type. Here's the Kickstarter:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14 ... love-story

[Revi]

I think we are a little past peak oil, but it's hard to tell. People are acting like the happy days are here again now. I just read about a guy who saved so much on heating oil, he took his family to Disneyland. Why not? We are all pretty much living in Disneyland now anyway. Why spoil the illusion? I have a feeling that it will be very short lived...

And it had better not mention folks still claiming that we are already past peak oil, and the result are the huge drop in prices you see at the corner gas station. Could cause some folks to hhmmph right there and walk away to take a road trip, or buy some gasoline just to douse their garbage with to burn in the back yard, or convince them to convert their old home back to the heating oil instead of clean burning natural gas, we might reverse the entire CO2 emissions profile of the US with this peak oil consequence of low prices for the foreseeable future![/quote]

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'w')e need a film on the effects of a massive oil glut- that can cause as many problems as a shortage can. Its too bad film makers are so stuck on only a few select viewpoints on most issues.

[Revi]

We didn't fix the financial problem in 2008, which was caused by peak oil, and it won't be fixed this next time. We are like a patient who is very sick. You can bring the patient back, but will he be able to live without all the things they do in the hospital? Who knows? What they did with the mortgage backed securities in the last debacle was to simply buy them at whatever price the banks wanted, then put them all into a vault. That's why there are hundreds of thousands of abandoned houses all over the place. Nobody can figure out who owns them. Therefore they sit abandoned. Meanwhile there are millions of people who are homeless. Welcome to the new reality.

[C8]

I think folks misunderstood what I wrote, a glut can be very disruptive. it can lead to the fall of oil exporting nations, civil war, the slowing of renewables, massive population spikes, urbanization, CO2 spikes, etc.

A glut can be very disruptive and set us up for a major conflict. We need films on this also- not just always the fears of those who worry about too little energy. What is the downside of too much energy?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'w')e need a film on the effects of a massive oil glut- that can cause as many problems as a shortage can. Its too bad film makers are so stuck on only a few select viewpoints on most issues.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'w')e need a film on the effects of a massive oil glut- that can cause as many problems as a shortage can. Its too bad film makers are so stuck on only a few select viewpoints on most issues.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')his film is not going to be about predictions. It's about a guy who is obsessed with the idea of Peak Oil and how he relates to it.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') think we are a little past peak oil, but it's hard to tell.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'I') think folks misunderstood what I wrote, a glut can be very disruptive. it can lead to the fall of oil exporting nations, civil war, the slowing of renewables, massive population spikes, urbanization, CO2 spikes, etc.

[C8]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'I') think folks misunderstood what I wrote, a glut can be very disruptive. it can lead to the fall of oil exporting nations, civil war, the slowing of renewables, massive population spikes, urbanization, CO2 spikes, etc.

[Revi]

We are at $785 of our $2000 goal to make the movie! Thanks to people who chipped in! It seems achievable in the next 11 days now. I think it will be a kinder, gentler way to get the message out about resource limits, and amusing to people who don't believe in them too!

Thanks again! It is possible!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14 ... love-story

[Revi]

Now we're at $915, and it seems even more possible in the next 10 days. We are definitely going to talk about the "glut". It is a strange phenomenon, but it's part of the roller coaster ride we're on. Remember that at the top of any resource there are huge swings in price and quantity. We are in one of those swings now. Remember oil at $142 a barrel? It wasn't too long ago. There won't be much produced at $27 a barrel, and that might set us up for another run-up. Or it might not. We'll see... Anyway thanks to all who have helped with our film project!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14 ... love-story

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', '
')No two gluts produce the exact same outcomes- remember- WW1 and 2 were both preceded by vastly expanded amounts of oil. Oil is like food, hungry people sulk, but once people get filled up they want to fight.

How does the collapse of S. Arabia, Iran, Nigeria affect the world? What about a Canadian housing crash? A Russian invasion? Massive migration and border war caused by cheap transport? Gluts can be very turbulent. Too many people are stuck on "give me that old time PO religion". The world is constantly changing- why be stuck in 2005 and Kunstlerville?

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', '
')The glut doesn't by itself disprove peak oil, or even peak oil doom. It merely invalidates the constant churn of short-term doomsday predictions of peakers who have been "calling" doom for the last 10 years or so.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', ' ')Remember that at the top of any resource there are huge swings in price and quantity. We are in one of those swings now.