[Cog]

I guess Alzheimer's didn't exists before we had nurses, social security, medicare, and 24/7 care. I guess we are fortunate to have Medicare and Social Security now to take care of all of them. If Alzheimer's had occured before we had these safety nets, the people would have been totally helpless to deal with it.

Sixstrings lack of desire to be around and take care of sick and old relatives does not impose a duty on me to do so. I have my own relatives to take care of when the time comes.

[Cloud9]

My Father In Law worked for forty years for Life and Casualty selling insurance. Their retirement plan was a stock option. AIG bought out Life and Casualty and converted his stock into AIG. He had a little over $800,000 in stock when the pricks in London blew up AIG. They walked away with millions, he was crushed and died a broken man. May they all burn in hell.

The state has done everything in its power to usurp the family and in so doing it has grown its bureaucracies and created millions of dependents. This whole process has been undertaken under the premise that inequity is a problem of distribution. Once the socialists come to realize there simply is not enough to sustain the exponential growth their systems are built on the whole house of cards will come down. Then, out of necessity we will reinvent the family. There is where the real safety net exists.

[vision-master]

Poor ppl stick togather, many live three generations under one roof, rich ppl are isolated and live on large gated estates and belong to country clubs to futher their own money machine. Poor pll offen offer what little they have to others, rich ppl expect others to do things for them for little or nothing.





Poor ppl help others.........

Rich ppl help themselves.........

[hiper42]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'D')id it ever occur to you that some people got rich because they deliverd a product people wanted and are willing to pay for. And did it ever occur to you that some people wasted their life with poor choices and laziness and simply can't afford to retire?

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hiper42', '
')Look what is happening in Syria where you have the people of Syria
taking to the streets to demand an increased share/stake in their society.
They are facing tanks, heavy artillery and airstrikes.
What they are facing is the states protection (by use of military force) of the grossly uneven distribution of wealth and privileges.
It is that simple.
Capitalism ....

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hiper42', '
')Capitalism is based on the exploitative extraction of surplus value from workers.
The workers "earned every dollar"... but were paid a fraction.

[vision-master]

Please, stick with working family workers for your beez'ness.........

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')OCIALIST one-party states often have grossly uneven distribution of wealth and privileges---just look at North Korea.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'N')othing like expending your life working all day from morning to night to provide for your family, only to check peakoil.com and find self-righteous people who claim your paycheck belongs to them.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'A')s with all Ponzi schemes, the first in make out like bandits. Ida Fuller payed $24 into SS and extracted $22,000. Those who come later make all the payments and get no payout. SS is not invested in government debt, it was spent. Writing an IOU to yourself for a trillion dollars does not mean you own anything.

[PrestonSturges]

Of course these elderly workers will be buying their own health insurance as well, because a 75 year old guy with a heart bypass and diabetes can surely afford to maintain their own health insurance.

Basically, the plan is to "solve" the retirement and health care issues by reducing the life span of Americans by 5 to 10 years. Ooops, you cracked a tooth? Well, it sucks to be you, because in 6 months you'll be dead.

The logical course would be for the government to set up suicide centers like in Soylent Green where the lonely elderly can shuffle in for a first class euthanasia session. Of course, wingnuts would still whine about the expense.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', ' ')Ooops, you cracked a tooth? Well, it sucks to be you, because in 6 months you'll be dead.

[Lore]

My wife is an emergency room nurse and she receives a huge number of patients coming in for dental problems. The only thing the hospital can do is give them antibiotics and pain medication and expect to see them again in a week at the door. Many of these emergency room issues could have been prevented through their local dentist at a much lower cost. Since dental is not covered under Medicaid either, the general insurance paying public ends up footing the bill for these people.

[hiper42]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '
')If you have an idea, you get a loan, and you invest your savings to buy equipment. You work day and night to achieve your goal......and you fail. You lost it all. Your retirement money is gone. The money of your relatives you borrowed..gone. The additional mortgage you had to take on your home, still there.

Where are the workers now? Are they there to help you out? Do they pool their money and give you your lost investemnt back? Do they sell their cars and TV to pay your relatives? I don't think so and that's why workers are paid a fraction of what they create. And most of them don't even create what they're paid.

But you won't understand, hiper42. You're clearly a worker bee. The biggest risk you ever took was trying that newly flavored coffee at starbucks.

[Plantagenet]

The need for dental coverage is just another reason why the dems should've gone for single payer healthcare, instead of inflicting the crazy hodgepodge of Obamacare on the USA. It would be a lot easier to add dental coverage if we had single payer instead of Obamacare.

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hiper42', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '
')If you have an idea, you get a loan, and you invest your savings to buy equipment. You work day and night to achieve your goal......and you fail. You lost it all. Your retirement money is gone. The money of your relatives you borrowed..gone. The additional mortgage you had to take on your home, still there.

Where are the workers now? Are they there to help you out? Do they pool their money and give you your lost investemnt back? Do they sell their cars and TV to pay your relatives? I don't think so and that's why workers are paid a fraction of what they create. And most of them don't even create what they're paid.

But you won't understand, hiper42. You're clearly a worker bee. The biggest risk you ever took was trying that newly flavored coffee at starbucks.

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he need for dental coverage is just another reason why the dems should've gone for single payer healthcare, instead of inflicting the crazy hodgepodge of Obamacare on the USA. It would be a lot easier to add dental coverage if we had single payer instead of Obamacare.

[hiper42]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hiper42', '
')Capitalism is based on the exploitative extraction of surplus value from workers.
The workers "earned every dollar"... but were paid a fraction.