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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Cog » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 11:36:58

Only confirms what I already knew. That hard leftists and enviro-wackos would slaughter people by the billions if they had the power to do so.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 14:06:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')evelop and implement Heat resistant GM crops.

Impossible. Plant morphology and cellular function is a complex system. GMO success among higher plants are actually rather rare, only two (bT and roundup-ready varieties) show proven long-term commericial value.

pstarr, though I agree with you on each of the other points, I don't think flat assertions like this (i.e. "Impossible") are reasonable or helpful.

Quick Google searches provided plenty of recent and promising looking hits on GMO crops and cross-breeding crops having success with both drought (i.e corn) and temperature (rice), for example.

http://www.isaaa.org/kc/cropbiotechupda ... p?ID=11412

In the above case, it seems both drought and heat are largely mitigated in the very-wet-crop -- rice.

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')HEAT-TOLERANT RICE DEVELOPED IN MALAYSIA

The Malaysian Agricultural Research and Development Institute (MARDI) has launched a rice variety named MRIA 1 which is heat resistant, does not require much water, and can be planted off-season. Developed through the collaboration with the International Rice Research Institute, MRIA 1 matures in 90 days and is also more disease resistant.


The following link (the "heat resistant") link in the above quote, gets into a lot more detail.

http://www.isaaa.org/resources/publicat ... efault.asp

While traditional cross breeding has so far achieved the best results, this piece makes clear that insights for genetic trait manipulation to aid in drought and stress mitigation in plants is certainly not considered impossible by scientists. (The heat resistant link focuses mainly on drought. I presume the implication is that high heat tends to increase drought issues).
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Cog » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 20:30:56

I will be brutal but fair as a king. I will let this picture speak for my type of rule.


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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 20:50:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')evelop and implement Heat resistant GM crops.

Impossible. Plant morphology and cellular function is a complex system. GMO success among higher plants are actually rather rare, only two (bT and roundup-ready varieties) show proven long-term commericial value.

pstarr, though I agree with you on each of the other points, I don't think flat assertions like this (i.e. "Impossible") are reasonable or helpful.

Quick Google searches provided plenty of recent and promising looking hits on GMO crops and cross-breeding crops having success with both drought (i.e corn) and temperature (rice), for example.

http://www.isaaa.org/kc/cropbiotechupda ... p?ID=11412

In the above case, it seems both drought and heat are largely mitigated in the very-wet-crop -- rice.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')HEAT-TOLERANT RICE DEVELOPED IN MALAYSIA

The Malaysian Agricultural Research and Development Institute (MARDI) has launched a rice variety named MRIA 1 which is heat resistant, does not require much water, and can be planted off-season. Developed through the collaboration with the International Rice Research Institute, MRIA 1 matures in 90 days and is also more disease resistant.


The following link (the "heat resistant") link in the above quote, gets into a lot more detail.

http://www.isaaa.org/resources/publicat ... efault.asp

While traditional cross breeding has so far achieved the best results, this piece makes clear that insights for genetic trait manipulation to aid in drought and stress mitigation in plants is certainly not considered impossible by scientists. (The heat resistant link focuses mainly on drought. I presume the implication is that high heat tends to increase drought issues).

The norm in most rice growing areas is to harvest at the end of rainy season/ monsoon, then to fallow until planting at the rains begin again, 6-9 months later. (Husks are usually burned, an utter waste of both oil & mulch) The odd pumpkin or melon vine goes in but mostly there is no yield or deliberate fallow cropping in the dry season. The obvious crop is hemp. Cannabis has been acclimatised to a broader range of extremes than any other cultivated plant. From coastal Sumatra on the equator, to varieties thriving in the Himalayas or Scandinavia. Minimal inputs, multiple useful outputs including extremely nutritious seed, very little water required, laid back communities with blacksmiths expert in turning guns into ploughshares.

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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Cog » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 21:20:14

I do not wish to kill hippies. I wish to reform them into good honest God fearing Christian republicans who can hold a job. Under my regime, you will work hard building the pipelines and roads needed to continue our way of life. At night, you will have your choice of TV entertainment with such shows like Father Knows Best, Leave it to Beaver, Lawrence Welk, and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity podcasts.

On Sundays, you will till the fields one half day and spend the rest of the day in prayer to the Lord Jesus Christ. None of that Gaia crap is going to be tolerated.

In time, I will purge the dirty hippie right out of you.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Cog » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 22:43:16

Being a king is a thankless task at times.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby GHung » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 22:56:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f I were King of the Forest, Not queen, not duke, not prince.
My regal robes of the forest, would be satin, not cotton, not chintz.
I'd command each thing, be it fish or fowl.
With a woof and a woof and a royal growl - woof.
As I'd click my heel, all the trees would kneel.
And the mountains bow and the bulls kowtow.
And the sparrow would take wing - If I - If I - were King!
Each rabbit would show respect to me.
The chipmunks genuflect to me.
Though my tail would lash, I would show compash
For every underling!
'f I - 'f I - were King!
Just King!


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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 00:13:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') will be brutal but fair as a king. I will let this picture speak for my type of rule.


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Pure stereotyping caricature of Christians in modern America. I bet the hard lefty will jump all over this like piranha after chum.
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To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby americandream » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 00:35:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') do not wish to kill hippies. I wish to reform them into good honest God fearing Christian republicans who can hold a job. Under my regime, you will work hard building the pipelines and roads needed to continue our way of life. At night, you will have your choice of TV entertainment with such shows like Father Knows Best, Leave it to Beaver, Lawrence Welk, and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity podcasts.

On Sundays, you will till the fields one half day and spend the rest of the day in prayer to the Lord Jesus Christ. None of that Gaia crap is going to be tolerated.

In time, I will purge the dirty hippie right out of you.


As I said elsewhere in the forum, this fellow has some mental issues so its pointless reasoning with him. He cannot contemplate history in objective fashion, has a rudimentary notion of cause and effect and is a jumble of noise going on in there. A highly subjective individual but as I said, trying to reason with him is pointless.

He has periodic bouts of lucidity but is clearly overwhelmed the rest of the time.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby davep » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 02:01:57

He's trolling for a reaction. It worked.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby americandream » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 04:19:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'H')e's trolling for a reaction. It worked.
Reactions are quite natural. Putting a lid on them without letting this fellow off, and without all the high drama, is the only reasonable option.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 04:49:04

Man don't you remember what it was like here a few years ago? Cog has plenty of decorum compared to some around then. We have been over & over the bannings issue & the consensus at the decision level has been not to go down the road of TOD. The site works, the board works, there are raw emotional communications & scientific ones & everything in between.

As Dave is suggesting, when you find yourself screaming for someone to be banned, you may be just a tad over invested in site number million & something.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby americandream » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 05:19:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'M')an don't you remember what it was like here a few years ago? Cog has plenty of decorum compared to some around then. We have been over & over the bannings issue & the consensus at the decision level has been not to go down the road of TOD. The site works, the board works, there are raw emotional communications & scientific ones & everything in between.

As Dave is suggesting, when you find yourself screaming for someone to be banned, you may be just a tad over invested in site number million & something.


I personally am not calling for him to be banned nor can one reasonably infer that from the exasperation presented by many others on here. Going from exasperation to book burning is something of a leap.

But conduct of a reasonable order is entirely natural to expect....and consistency as well. This site is the property of someone else who has expended much time, money and effort to ensure that his or objective is realised.....clearly he or she is not a cornucopian or else this place would be selling Wall Street and not highlighting resource controversy.

In that spirit, Cog should at least offer us the courtesy of a reasoned denial, not smug one liners. That is what overwhelms places such as this with the mentally infirm thereby causing the owners real and measurable loss.

Speaking from platforms, consistency would be much appreciated. We are here because of someone elses hard effort and sacrifice. Let us not usurp his or her spirit.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Cog » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 05:31:09

Let us postulate that I am not mentally ill, nor am I trolling for a reaction. Then consider what other reasons I might have made these last two posts.

I have to go to work now, but will check later tonight to see if there is anyone reading this who might be able to see past their emotion,
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby americandream » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 06:04:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'L')et us postulate that I am not mentally ill, nor am I trolling for a reaction. Then consider what other reasons I might have made these last two posts.

I have to go to work now, but will check later tonight to see if there is anyone reading this who might be able to see past their emotion,


There is no postulating. One merely looks at your facts and the facts are that in an ocean of the untelligible, there are islands of some semblance of a reasoned position, even if one may disagree with it.

Lets postulate what this place would look like in short shift if it were to become another haunt of smug one liners as is often the case elsewhere on the net. No one goes to the effort and cost of any project only to see it overrun with the unsound of mind.

I personally have no issues with you taking your positions robustly. For example why are Democrat policies less workeable as opposed to Republican ones other than the usual pinko, lefty, hippie, one liners as seems to often be the case with your ilk. I really havent a clue what you think and other then a lot of noisy gibbering which quickly drives audience from these places. However, if you from time to time explained Republican policies with the depth of your passion, garbled admittedly that it is, hey you might win me over. After I am the ultimate capitalist being a market price discoverer. All I need is for one of you fellows to convince me that it can last the pace.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Pops » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 10:51:54

I don't think name calling is necessary, the ad homs are kinda thick lately maybe we all need to go sit in the kiddie pool, or maybe use the ignore button.

Cog isn't trolling, unfortunately a good portion of Americans feel exactly as he does.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby Pops » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 11:34:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I') vote for Pops to be Bernie Sanders vice president :)

I thought you liked Sanders?

(Sec of Trans would do - LoL)
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Unread postby davep » Sun 19 Jul 2015, 11:35:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'C')og isn't trolling, unfortunately a good portion of Americans feel exactly as he does.


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