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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 19:43:40

Well I would be having my way with your soldiers then PEAKINT

1/ you mention nothing about an economic model to support your thesis.

2/ it's not just about how many children, but who is having them & in what circumstances. There is no scientific justification for restricting male breeding, babies per womb gives a mathematically same result whilst allowing competition among males for womb access. Do away with that altogether & we are in an even worse position genetically than now.

3/ who defines 'convicted criminal' absolute bullshit. Anyone who knows anything about justice systems knows they are often anything but & in an Authoritarian State they are ALWAYS ABUSED.

4/ 65? What about 28? Surely the wisdom of ages is one of the most digitally replaceable human traits/ requirements? Who needs grown ups when there's Wikipedia?

(BTW you forgot to round up & slaughter all the disabled, & marginally intelligent, then what to put the tools of slaughter & repression to next)

Nope, you are an a%%hat & I would happily go to war against your monster state.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby Tanada » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 20:08:41

Judging by the reactions I get around this place if I were King of the World the first thing I would have to do is create a massive police force or face a revolution in a short term period of my rule.
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To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby americandream » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 20:17:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'T')he optimum strategy at this point is:

Start sulphurization flights immediately.
Start rationing oil immediately.
Start building fission-fusion plants immediately(http://www.yottawatts.net).

Develop and implement methods of burning off clathrate deposits without releasing the methane.
Develop and implement Pure fusion plants like Steinhaus's mini-mike.
Develop and implement Heat resistant GM crops.
Develop and implement carbon fixing wind turbines.


You would do a Tsipras the next day. The unconscientised mind cannot fully grasp the basis for change. Instead it succumbs to original sin and in the process, exposes itself to indecisiveness when confronted by the sheer scope of what is being asked of us. Not just how we fly, or how we breed, but how we are nurtered from the cradle up. Each of those values will have to be systematically rewritten within a new socio economic framework and quickly.

Once we recognise that the very foundations on which we rise to function as adults is wrongly configured, then our efforts are coordinated, resolute, decisive, targeted and resilient.

This is a huge challenge not only because of the scope of the project but also because of the cultural width of the audience and the time constraints. Only this however will see us endure as a species.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby americandream » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 20:21:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')ell I would be having my way with your soldiers then PEAKINT

1/ you mention nothing about an economic model to support your thesis.

2/ it's not just about how many children, but who is having them & in what circumstances. There is no scientific justification for restricting male breeding, babies per womb gives a mathematically same result whilst allowing competition among males for womb access. Do away with that altogether & we are in an even worse position genetically than now.

3/ who defines 'convicted criminal' absolute bullshit. Anyone who knows anything about justice systems knows they are often anything but & in an Authoritarian State they are ALWAYS ABUSED.

4/ 65? What about 28? Surely the wisdom of ages is one of the most digitally replaceable human traits/ requirements? Who needs grown ups when there's Wikipedia?

(BTW you forgot to round up & slaughter all the disabled, & marginally intelligent, then what to put the tools of slaughter & repression to next)

Nope, you are an a%%hat & I would happily go to war against your monster state.


Shouldnt we be watching our language given your family safe concerns?
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 20:34:29

Flibbetty gibbets guffawling!
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby americandream » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 20:49:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'F')libbetty gibbets guffawling!


As I said you make the rules up as you go along. You are precisely the petulant grandstander I will weed out in my project.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 21:29:16

Like I said, you are the one with a proven inability to perceive the difference between banter & foulmouthed insult.

Last time you had the nerve to spell out your agenda, from recall, I declared war on your army too. Also from recall your subsequent hissy fit got you a 2 week ban.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 21:36:28

Funny thing with you autistic totalitarian Idolators, you don't ever want to consider the likelihood of rebellion against your dream state.
There are a lot of people like me, genetically thoroughly predisposed to fighting, who currently live under a do no harm philosophy. Live & let live. But f&#k with me & mine & I will devote my life to not letting you, to fighting you, with joy & passion. When you have your little quorums, how many fighters have you?
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby americandream » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 21:39:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'F')unny thing with you autistic totalitarian Idolators, you don't ever want to consider the likelihood of rebellion against your dream state.
There are a lot of people like me, genetically thoroughly predisposed to fighting, who currently live under a do no harm philosophy. Live & let live. But f&#k with me & mine & I will devote my life to not letting you, to fighting you, with joy & passion. When you have your little quorums, how many fighters have you?

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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 21:46:15

Gee that is intimidating logic from a king of the world! Seriously you are the number one self appointed wanna be dictator since ReverseEngineer left 5 years ago. His ideas were wild, but they were threatening to the status quo in a far more real way than your ideas, because they were saleable.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby americandream » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 21:57:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'G')ee that is intimidating logic from a king of the world! Seriously you are the number one self appointed wanna be dictator since ReverseEngineer left 5 years ago. His ideas were wild, but they were threatening to the status quo in a far more real way than your ideas, because they were saleable.


Irrespective of your genetic propensities or my supposed autustic leanings, my point still stands. You interpret the rules of this forum to preen your peacock feathers. In contrast, consistency would be preferable especially where we are prescriptive.

I will leave it there as this is looking to become another exchange in male fighting hormones and that frankly bores me.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby PEAKINT » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 22:08:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')ell I would be having my way with your soldiers then PEAKINT

1/ you mention nothing about an economic model to support your thesis.

2/ it's not just about how many children, but who is having them & in what circumstances. There is no scientific justification for restricting male breeding, babies per womb gives a mathematically same result whilst allowing competition among males for womb access. Do away with that altogether & we are in an even worse position genetically than now.

3/ who defines 'convicted criminal' absolute bullshit. Anyone who knows anything about justice systems knows they are often anything but & in an Authoritarian State they are ALWAYS ABUSED.

4/ 65? What about 28? Surely the wisdom of ages is one of the most digitally replaceable human traits/ requirements? Who needs grown ups when there's Wikipedia?

(BTW you forgot to round up & slaughter all the disabled, & marginally intelligent, then what to put the tools of slaughter & repression to next)

Nope, you are an a%%hat & I would happily go to war against your monster state.



That was just a template to be applied globally.

Of course for this or any other "plan" to work there would have to be an elite in power (NWO) to enforce it and produce the necessary central structure. In a fast crash all hell breaks lose and I'm not sure anyone wants that.

The whole "one man, one woman" was only out of notion of social justice and fairness. Hence why I didn't not put forth any requirement for high IQ or state disabling the disabled, etc.

If it wasn't for that concern, and we were to put morality aside:

I would say that the best way is to maintain a 1:9 male to female ratio.

Simply put, only the most feminine aesthetic and beautiful girls/women in the world get chosen to breed. Ugly or even average woman don't get a chance to mate. I mean everyone can still have sex, but only pretty females get to pop out babies. And out of that subset gene pool, we maintain 10% male to female ratio. The cream of the crop males (super model types if per looks/health, or sons of super-wealth elites or high level politicians or Noble prize geeks if per status or brains, etc) to populate the 90% of the model-like females)

The entire REST of the population is FORBIDDEN from re-population at all.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby PEAKINT » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 22:23:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')ell I would be having my way with your soldiers then PEAKINT

1/ you mention nothing about an economic model to support your thesis.

2/ it's not just about how many children, but who is having them & in what circumstances. There is no scientific justification for restricting male breeding, babies per womb gives a mathematically same result whilst allowing competition among males for womb access. Do away with that altogether & we are in an even worse position genetically than now.

3/ who defines 'convicted criminal' absolute bullshit. Anyone who knows anything about justice systems knows they are often anything but & in an Authoritarian State they are ALWAYS ABUSED.

4/ 65? What about 28? Surely the wisdom of ages is one of the most digitally replaceable human traits/ requirements? Who needs grown ups when there's Wikipedia?

(BTW you forgot to round up & slaughter all the disabled, & marginally intelligent, then what to put the tools of slaughter & repression to next)

Nope, you are an a%%hat & I would happily go to war against your monster state.


#1 - Economics "models" don't matter. How is our best "models" working out for us? What we need is a resource equilibrium model.

#2 - I already address this in the above post. (right about this one)

#3 - False positives are okay. Push comes to shove, individual rights will get squashed anyway. Civil liberties are too expensive to maintain or enforce or uphold. But lip service is cheap (isn't that exactly what is already happening today?)

#4 - There is a lot of evidence so far to support that the human brain does not actually fully mature until after age of 26. Having the cutoff at 28 is counterproductive. (esp. with such a huge overhead) There is a reason why the natural lifespan of humans is around 35 and not like 10 like a dogs.

With the advent of automation and so much technology replacing traditional labor, only a subset of the population will actually be needed for meaningful work (like people working in datacenters for Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc where you have an engineer to end-user ratio of one to a million or higher) and the rest of the population will be given crap work to make them feel good about themselves so that they believe they are doing something to "contribute" (humans are hardwired that way I guess) and so there is no uprising.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby Keith_McClary » Fri 17 Jul 2015, 22:49:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PEAKINT', 'S')ugar is outlawed. So is alcohol and tobacco and caffeine and milk.
All "Junk food" is gone.
At least you let us have our smokes.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby ohanian » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 02:36:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PEAKINT', 'S')ugar is outlawed. So is alcohol and tobacco and caffeine and milk.
All "Junk food" is gone.
At least you let us have our smokes.


DEMOLITION MAN (1993)

A police officer (John Spartan) is brought out of suspended animation in prison to pursue an old ultra-violent nemesis who is loose in a non-violent future society.

Lenina Huxley: Ah, smoking is not good for you, and it's been deemed that anything not good for you is bad; hence, illegal. Alcohol, caffeine, contact sports, meat...

John Spartan: Are you shitting me?

Moral Statute Machine: John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.

John Spartan: What the hell is that?

Moral Statute Machine: John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.

Lenina Huxley: Bad language, chocolate, gasoline, uneducational toys and anything spicy. Abortion is also illegal, but then again so is pregnancy if you don't have a licence.

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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby ohanian » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 03:08:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PEAKINT', '
')State imposes food intake restrictions and calorie consumption restrictions. Obese people are forced on water fast until they lose the fat.
People over age of 65 are put to sleep by the state.
People over age of 30 who get terminal illness are put to sleep by the state.


Enter the sandman

People over age of 30 are "put to sleep" by the state.

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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby sparky » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 05:39:56

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If I was king of the world
I would implement a standardization police so that only ISO threads would exist ,
anyone using any other standard would be skinned alive ,
their wife , kids , parents to be thrown to the wild beasts ,
their neighborhood declared unclean and burned off the face of the Earth
while boy scouts would dance on the ashes
the resident thereof branded in the face with the fateful mark NS ( not standard )

Afterward I would retire to the adoration of all engineers ,
attended by a bevy of scantily clad giggling pubescent beauties , feeding me grapes
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby Pops » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 11:16:57

I wrote this 3 or 4 time and it always comes out as forced collapse, induced coma to save the patient, LoL

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I would increase wellhead, mine-gate, stumpage, commodity-farm-gate and whatever other raw resource tax astronomically.

Just to make sure things crashed localized, I'd implement a tariff on transportation of just about everything. Some basic commodities would be exempt for a while as ag and industry re-localized. That of course is the goal, relocalize, get small and resilient. Rather than one global economy, a myriad of small economies, so very little global transport and very much a local and regional economy.

People could go wherever they liked, but they would probably be taking the scenic route on foot. I'd encourage localities to come up with their own forms of government but I'd bomb the hell out of them if they started squabbling.

Then, if I was still around, I would really be feeling my power, so:

I'd end conglomerates and transnational corps (if the above doesn't kill them) and maybe even corps altogether and make the biggest "entity" general partnerships. Don't need anything too big because markets won't be very big, limited by transport as they are.

I'd close the pinstripe casinos and end all trading by anyone other than commercial participants in commodities. Since there would be no corporate persons, there would be no stock markets as such, but perhaps there would be a "market" for partnerships. Of course in a partnership each partner is liable for the actions of the company so not much appeal there for the passive investor — which of course it the point, make owners responsible.

I probably wouldn't have to end the big banks but after the dust settled and they hadn't all failed, I'd finish it. For the most part borrowing would be passé at any rate and with the end of speculation and corporation so would the commissions. So really there would not be much for them to do except man the safe.

I'd make one universal currency, (call 'em PopTarts because they are forever) and back them with gold because the point would be deflating the economy and that's what a unmovable currency is good at.

Other smaller things would be encouraging folks to pack in just as tightly as possible into the cities, penalize for kids rather than reward for them, and limit the workweek to some small number to spread what work there was left around. No welfare but you could work for me to keep from starving.

So in the end (when they lynched me) all the frameworks of private property ownership would still be in place, and markets would have started to localize around dense cities—and dense cities make for fewer kids. FF and the remaining raw materials would still be available for the most important uses (whatever that might be — torching me probably one) and certainly local recycling and production would be booming.
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Re: If I was king of the world.

Postby Ibon » Sat 18 Jul 2015, 11:34:05

I vote for Pops to be Bernie Sanders vice president :)
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