[Quinny]

We face a predicament not a problem! Predicaments aren't generally solvable.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
')If Ibon et al. actually bothered to read/listen to his stuff, they'd know Kunstler has offered plenty of "solutions" (i.e., adaptations to our predicament), from structural changes like new urbanism to more personal approaches like suggesting young adults go into organic farming. That's not his focus, but it's there if you care to read it. .

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
')I'm having a real hard time squaring this post with your thousands of other posts droning on and on and on about the "overshoot predator."

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'K')unstler sees himself as a modern day H.L. Mencken.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'K')unstler sees himself as a modern day H.L. Mencken.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')To endlessly dissect all the many facets of the dysfunction is immature. Not only that, it is also becoming a tired cliche. What was perhaps cutting edge 10 years ago is becoming rather worn and boring and scripted and predictable as a theme.

Time to move on?

[KaiserJeep]

After all of the above wide-ranging and diverse conversation, we are about 650 million barrels closer to running out of oil, and no better prepared for it. I read the whole thread, and that is all I wanted to say.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')
I just don't have a lot of energy anymore to dissect the dysfunction. I have trails to maintain, cloud forest gardening to master, road work, passive solar to finally install, birds to identify, moths to pin, clouds to watch drift up the valley lead by Swallow Tailed Kites circling in thermals and dipping and diving for prey just a few feet above the canopy.

[ennui2]

There is an initial reward to being a doomer. You feel superior that you're a red piller and others aren't. And you can kind of wallow in a persistent state of outrage over the status quo, and (at least try) to use it as a form of bonding (as nothing helps people bond more like a common enemy, even when the enemy is really ourselves). Despite doomer anxiety, there's comfort in the predictability that humanity will always keep moving itself over the cliff. A daily cup of coffee and some Desdemona Despair blog posts in the morning. If it doesn't ultimately drive you to suicide or becoming an eco-terrorist, it just gets dull and tiring. You work your way beyond the point where you think you have any agency over the future and tend to your own garden, so to speak.

[Lore]

Being a Cassandra is never real popular. People don't want to think about things they don't think about. Especially those things that they feel powerless to control.