Vienna newspaper thinks he's having a doctor work on his back problem. And if you think about it, the way a thrown back presents itself to the viewing person, is probably even more embarrassing than flu. yeah, we'll have this meeting, my two bodyguards will drag me along on this stretcher cause I can't sit up or stand; but otherwise, I feel fine!!
I like to have my meetings laying on the floor when my back goes out; but I think that might prove problematic for Putin.
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Kremlin says Putin is "healthy," but not seen for a week
Re: Kremlin says Putin is "healthy," but not seen for a week
by AgentR11 » Sun 15 Mar 2015, 22:40:56
Yes we are, as we are,
And so shall we remain,
Until the end.
And so shall we remain,
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Re: Kremlin says Putin is "healthy," but not seen for a week
by Sixstrings » Sun 15 Mar 2015, 22:53:02
Russian video on youtube, Moscow police in riot gear:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')то происходит в Москве: ВВ,БТР,вертолёты для чего?
What is happening in Moscow : BB , armored personnel carriers, helicopters for what? [transalation]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMNX0A9AWoY&t=28
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')то происходит в Москве: ВВ,БТР,вертолёты для чего?
What is happening in Moscow : BB , armored personnel carriers, helicopters for what? [transalation]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMNX0A9AWoY&t=28
edit: reading the comments a lot of people say it's from 2012.
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Re: Kremlin says Putin is "healthy," but not seen for a week
by PoliPsy » Sun 15 Mar 2015, 23:34:30
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PoliPsy', 'I')s there an admin or moderator on this thread? I would report the user @Withnail for trollish behavior. The user's behavior has several characteristics listed in the article below. The user is name calling, sowing agitation, posting off topic and pushing down posts that took time and effort to compose and that are on topic.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PoliPsy', 'I')s there an admin or moderator on this thread? I would report the user @Withnail for trollish behavior. The user's behavior has several characteristics listed in the article below. The user is name calling, sowing agitation, posting off topic and pushing down posts that took time and effort to compose and that are on topic.
Doesn't seem that trollish to me, considering the forum we're on, dedicated as it is to ..... DOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM.
We are often quite agitated here; and the question is simple, and easy enough to lie about anyway if you want. He asked if you're from Ukraine. You can answer yes or no as you wish, without regard to any fact. Personally, as you haven't referenced bodily functions, body parts, or sexual orientation that you are more likely a Westerner with a pro-NATO and pro-NATO-narrative point of view; the intensity of your comments coupled with your very low post count makes me suspicious that you're either a paid poster, or have some vested interest in the issue (both of which are fine by me, and take nothing away from any content you post).
One of the things that has caused me some disappointment however, is that many on the side of the West seem dedicated to the belief that if anyone does not support their point of view, they must be a paid troll doing it only for the financial reason. Such an attitude is extremely repulsive. (shoe other foot, feel funny?)
Perhaps you're just trying to silence one of the few forums where the Russia/Ukraine situation is not overwhelmed with innane body part diatribes and NATO love fest sonatas? I doubt it'll work.
My first impression of you, AgentR11, was very positive after reading just one of your replies over on, "Re: Russia/Ukraine Crisis Pt. 7" Post by AgentR11 » Sun 25 Jan 2015, 18:05:03. But this reply of yours has dashed that first positive impression by being subjective, assumptive, illogical and pointless. But I do believe you have some intelligence behind your prejudices so let me respond to some of your comments.
"Doesn't seem that trollish to me"
Withnail is trollish according to this article, "The Troll's Guide to Internet Disruption." His behavior is clear cut in this thread. Compare it to the troll behavioral characteristics in the article. 1+1=2.
"the intensity of your comments"
You mean clear points with referenced links?
"with your very low post count"
I just activated my membership today. What should my post count be as a new member?
"makes me suspicious that you're either a paid poster"
Are you a forum gang member trolling new forum members whose viewpoints challenge the group think of the forum gang or new forum members who challenge one of the forum gang member's trollish behavior?
"or have some vested interest in the issue"
I do have a vested interest. Peace, prosperity, liberty, limited government, security, health, a high quality of life -- all of which could be dashed by global war and/or economic collapse.
You will see my views and philosophies over time if I can find time to engage. But to cut to the chase for the main theme of the site: Peak Oil is unproven, Hubbert's curve notwithstanding, yet Earth is a finite container for recoverable oil reserves if oil is created consistent with the standard geologic/biologic model. Only if the production of oil is abiotic is there any hope that it will outlast never ending consumption. Even then, if consumption outpaces the ability of the yet unproven abiotic mechanism to continuously produce supply, then peak oil still occurs.
There is every reason to believe that technology will allow us to stop burning oil and preserve it for other non-energy related purposes in the coming decades. Peak oil will not occur in the next few decades. We are swimming in oil and consumption can be moderated down via many factors without affecting growth and quality of life. We can survive limited quantities of oil, but can we survive global thermonuclear war and/or global economic collapse? What are your priorities?
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Re: Kremlin says Putin is "healthy," but not seen for a week
by PoliPsy » Sun 15 Mar 2015, 23:57:17
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'S')uch a good post, I'm just going to bump it. Withnail -- please don't completely disrupt a thread by flooding it with multiple "what country are you from?!?W@#! Answer me answer me are you ukrainnnian?@#$@#!" 
Here is what is so interesting, it could be either of the three -- illness, coup, or escalation planning. There've been cancer rumors over the last year ish. But -- I don't think it's illness. No way. The czar doesn't watch tv while the world talks about coup, the czar would be out there on top of it and you can bet that.
Escalation planning / holed up in bunker is possible, but still, this is not like Putin to allow a power vaccum to develop and questions about coup all over the world like this. If it's #2, escalation planning, then it's something very serious. He withdrew with his advisors over a weekend once to plan the Crimea action, if I recall something I read correctly.
Most mysterious is that nobody is coming out to say anything in support of the president, like Dimitry Medvedev. Rumor and gossip being what it is in Russia, I think it's amazing this thing is still a mystery right now.
Anyhow welcome to the forum, PoliPsy, I for one do not care what country you are from.
I would only just say that some of your sources -- like "global research" -- are dramatic and alamarist and sensational analysis, plus they've got a Russian narrative bent that wants to see anything the US does as some kind of plot. If you want objectivity and truth then just be aware of that. For example: that "dragoon ride" is just a meet and greet convoy. All they are doing is driving back from Estonia after they had the "operation atlantic resolve" training. Cigars are just cigars, when it comes to murica anyhow, though admittedly Russia is riddles inside enigmas and a bit tougher to figure out. a) it ain't a flu, b) he ain't sick, c) it's either planning a massive military move -- could be a full invasion of Ukraine -- or, there's a coup / infighting at the kremlin and all heck is breaking loose / maybe he's under house arrest.
Good post though, I'll bump it:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PoliPsy', 'T')here are many analysts of Russian politics and power structures speculating on this, and 'coup' is one of the possibilities being cited. My initial thoughts regarding the absence were:
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Here is what is so interesting, it could be either of the three -- illness, coup, or escalation planning. There've been cancer rumors over the last year ish. But -- I don't think it's illness. No way. The czar doesn't watch tv while the world talks about coup, the czar would be out there on top of it and you can bet that.
Escalation planning / holed up in bunker is possible, but still, this is not like Putin to allow a power vaccum to develop and questions about coup all over the world like this. If it's #2, escalation planning, then it's something very serious. He withdrew with his advisors over a weekend once to plan the Crimea action, if I recall something I read correctly.
Most mysterious is that nobody is coming out to say anything in support of the president, like Dimitry Medvedev. Rumor and gossip being what it is in Russia, I think it's amazing this thing is still a mystery right now.
Anyhow welcome to the forum, PoliPsy, I for one do not care what country you are from.
I would only just say that some of your sources -- like "global research" -- are dramatic and alamarist and sensational analysis, plus they've got a Russian narrative bent that wants to see anything the US does as some kind of plot. If you want objectivity and truth then just be aware of that. For example: that "dragoon ride" is just a meet and greet convoy. All they are doing is driving back from Estonia after they had the "operation atlantic resolve" training. Cigars are just cigars, when it comes to murica anyhow, though admittedly Russia is riddles inside enigmas and a bit tougher to figure out. a) it ain't a flu, b) he ain't sick, c) it's either planning a massive military move -- could be a full invasion of Ukraine -- or, there's a coup / infighting at the kremlin and all heck is breaking loose / maybe he's under house arrest.
Good post though, I'll bump it:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PoliPsy', 'T')here are many analysts of Russian politics and power structures speculating on this, and 'coup' is one of the possibilities being cited. My initial thoughts regarding the absence were:
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And you're right, it's not rational he would cause panic and above all he would NEVER let questions about a coup just hang out there and he's just mysteriously absent -- that's dangerous stuff -- if you're gone long enough, folk will begin talking of a coup if they weren't to begin with.
I'm a tad worried. You have me thinking now maybe he is planning a massive military move, and that would mean invasion of somewhere.
"Anyhow welcome to the forum, PoliPsy"
Thanks, @Sixstrings! That is much appreciated. And thanks for starting this thread.
"some of your sources -- like 'global research'"
I read all sources. There are NONE that I trust as a sole source of information.
" a) it ain't a flu, b) he ain't sick, c) it's either planning a massive military move -- could be a full invasion of Ukraine -- or, there's a coup / infighting at the kremlin and all heck is breaking loose / maybe he's under house arrest."
He could be sick or injured in my opinion, but his failure to communicate to the nation under these circumstances means that if he is sick, he's very sick. But over the weekend, I had time to read up on this situation and think about it. I agree with you at this point that deep war planning for escalation or a coup attempt or warding off a coup is very likely under the circumstances. Many of us remember seeing Mikhail Gorbachev shaking and stumbling down the air-stairs after his absence during the last days of the USSR. His talking-to changed history. As I recall, we did not know where he was or what was happening. It was very much like this situation.
If he doesn't show up for Monday's meeting with President Almazbek Atambayev of Kyrgyz, well ...
Articles since the post you bumped.
1) Vladimir Putin has been 'neutralised' by a stealthy coup as rumours about his health and well-being continue to flourish / Daily Mail
2) Vladimir Putin 'in bed with a bad cold watching Crimea documentary' / Telegraph
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