THE Beer Thread (merged)

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 01:19:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'I')'m on my 12th one now, and intend to drink up until about midnight. Then to work tomorrow at 06:30

by **Keith_McClary** » Mon 06 Jun 2005, 01:58:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'I')'m on my 12th one now, and intend to drink up until about midnight. Then to work tomorrow at 06:30

by **KevO** » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 12:24:37

Yes. a new report suggests that England is past peak with consumption up on good weather and breweries unable to meet demand.
yeast harvesting is very poor and the barrel price of beer is now at an all time high of £90 ($160)
To add to the woes apples are in short supply as kids have started scrumping again and there is a general hosepipe ban coming into force this weekend in most of the UK which will effect the traditional cider crop

Ron Pickled of Ciderrus said,' these peak alcoholies couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery'

Queues have begun forming early today outside English pubs as rationing begins at 7pm GMT on the weekly binge night.
Drinkers are said to be well oiled at the historic turning point but intend to hit peak alcohol tonight before going into decline tomorrow.

www.blackbud.co.uk (more at link)

kevO

by **RdSnt** » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 12:27:17

I fall down when I reach PA.

by **KevO** » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 12:30:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', '
')www.blackbud.co.uk (more at link)

kevO

by **Starvid** » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 14:51:44

Oh my God. And we thought Peak Oil was bad!

by **lorenzo** » Fri 10 Jun 2005, 15:06:22

And for Brits, there are no alternatives to alcohol. This is very dramatic indeed. :-D

by **Laurasia** » Sat 11 Jun 2005, 16:09:10

Ah Lorenzo, you can take away my booze, but PLEASE don't take away my tea. Peak Tea would be TRULY horrific.

Regards,

L.

by **NEOPO** » Mon 13 Jun 2005, 10:57:45

Since alcohol is a poison to the human brain, there is no alcohol receptor site in the brain and many people act very stupid when they are drunken. I must say that I have no sympathy for peak alcohol :cry:

Now lets look at THC and marijauna for a second

THC is not a poison, in 1989 scientists discovered a THC receptor site in the human brain and most people that I know who smoke are quite sensible.
I must conclude that we should all be smoking pot instead of poisoning our brains like a cucumber in a jar of vinegar with alcohol.

Anyways, alcohol is just yeast poop!!

ta da!!!

by **SchroedingersCat** » Mon 27 Jun 2005, 23:52:27

I have been thinking about what might be the best indicator of the coming economic crisis and I keep coming back to beer (but who doesn't :-D

).

Beer involves so many aspects of our modern society that it's price might be a good indicator of the economy in general.

Beer requires:
-Agriculture for the grain and hops
-Industry and energy for the bottles and cooking
-Fuel for transportation to get it to the stores
-People with some extra money to buy it

It would be interesting to chart how beer prices move in various locations to see how it compares with the economy in general. Any takers?

Here in San Francisco, comercial domestic beer is about $7 US a 12-pack (12 pints.) Imported beer is about $12/12.

by **turmoil** » Tue 28 Jun 2005, 00:07:37

yes we will call it... The Beer Drinkers Industrials Average (BDIA)

by **aldente** » Tue 28 Jun 2005, 00:17:43

During World War 2 British intelligence agents were supposedly able to access to the depletion protocols of the Heineken brewery in the (then occupied) Netherlands. With this data they could determine in which Dutch cities and towns most German soldiers were stationed plus which movements were going on.

Beer indeed seems to be an always accurate indicator and I wondered from time to time why the German word "Wirtschaft" stands for both a pub as well as the economy. Here we have an explanation.

A sound running economy:

A stagnant economy:

and an economy in serious trouble:

by **killJOY** » Tue 28 Jun 2005, 06:59:30

We are entering the homemade MEAD/DANDELION WINE era.

See? There's some reason to be happy.

by **jeffvail** » Tue 28 Jun 2005, 09:31:23

Ahhh beer.

One of my long-term plans/dreams is to start a beer farm. Grow my own hops, grow and malt my own barley, and brew real ale in real wood barrels, then sell the stuff from my cellars in once-a-week festivities.

But on a more serious note, beer does seem like an excellent example. Look at the imputs listed: agriculture, fuel for brewing, bottling, transport, etc. We're thinking of beer through the lens of an industrial economy. There is also the local-economy beer (as in my beer-farm above). Human civilization has been producing and enjoying a vast array of products for millenea, long before the reign of cheap oil. Cheap oil has facilitated the industrial, specialization-based production of consumables. So... one thing that we will have to prepare for in a post-peak world is a re-localization. You may not be drinking much Heineken, but I doubt we'll be running out of beer pretty soon -- it'll just come from down the valley, not around the world.

Any partners in the beer-farm?

~Jeff

http://www.jeffvail.net/

by **Doly** » Tue 28 Jun 2005, 09:38:07

Beer may become more expensive, but on the other hand people may feel like they need it more... so it isn't necessarily bad news for the beer manufacturers.

by **linlithgowoil** » Tue 28 Jun 2005, 16:01:05

life wouldnt be worth living without beer.

by **The_Virginian** » Fri 01 Jul 2005, 05:54:28

Beer is Liquid Bread (brot) and should be subsidized by the Government
...then again maybe it already is. Let's look at the facts:

so far beer has held steady here in micro-trading and Macro sampling.

Because the local brew (Goldstar) is in competiton from Turkey (venis/Tuborg, Izmir) and even cheap German/Euro Beers (brandenburger, otto wiesler -Sp?- Shloss Krone -really German Soda Pop IMHO- and others fron denmark, Russia etc.).

I preffer German Beer in a STEEL can (no AL for me) for my cheap not so tasty high. 3 for 10 paper Shekel (2.20 USD for 3- 1/2 liter cans = 1.5 litre

Staropramen dark, Kaiserdom ( 10 NIS a 330 ml, Bavarian beer, reminds me of Redhook ESB and IDPA combined), Leffe brews (10 NIS - 330ml), and even Checz Budwieser ( 8-10 NIS - 500ml... A Halfwiezen, and not even remotely like in the USA), Grolsh is 14 NIS for 500ml...so good beers are available...but as noted, they do cost a lot more.

So let's use Godstar as a local source Benchmark Brew In Israel. (depite that it has some suger in it, it's OK "beer.")

The CHEAPEST I can get 3 500ml bottles for is: 10 shekel + 1 shekel deposit = 13 Paper Shekel for 1500ml. You get 3 pot metal shekel coins
in retuern so you can keep the bottles as a store of wealth for hard times.

So far, Gas is up 18% this year (8% just today) but beer is CHEAP in comparison.

I'm not sure beer is a reliable indicator of inflation, thus I expect Greenspan's replacement will try to work it into the CPI somehow.

by **linlithgowoil** » Fri 01 Jul 2005, 07:50:45

my favourite lager is Scottish Tennent's Lager. Currently, i can procure 24 500ml cans for £9.99 on a special deal - which works out at 41.6ish pence a can - this is DIRT cheap. If you buy the cans separately, they are around 90 pence each.

The Lager is a fine pilsner type lager with a 4% alcohol content. It is fizzy, but not overly so, has a nice golden hue and is very refreshing. It is FAR superior to, say, budweiser lager.

I also enjoy german lager - any type of pilsner will do - its all very good, though it is usually pretty strong and i always end up with a pretty bad hangover the next day.

I dont like ales or foamy beers, they just arent right - it feels like you are having a meal when you are drinking them, they are that thick and rich. The refreshing taste of pilsner is where its at.

Incidentally, i dont know whether anyone has heard of Buckfast Tonic Wine. This is a fortified wine that is drank by young underage drinkers in scotland. Its made by monks in england. It still costs around £4.50, and has cost this since i was around 14 years old - there has been zero inflation on that particular product.

However, i notice that beer has come up in price - When i was 14/15 years old, you could get 4 cans of tennents super for around £4 or less. Now, each can costs about £1.30, so its now about £5.20 for 4 cans - thats a 30% inflation increase.

by **cammo2004** » Fri 01 Jul 2005, 10:59:25

Heh, notice how quickly the topic changed to favourite beers?

lol. :lol:

I don't know how good an indicator beer will be - maybe the frequency of drunks?

Beer will continue to be around. It existed pre industrial revolution. Beer was probably even more popular then than it is now (water tasted quite awful).

Of course, it won't taste the same...

by **0mar** » Fri 01 Jul 2005, 11:50:29

Real men drink hard liquor.

Jacks, on the rocks.

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