[Deputy Barnes]

Again the smallpox myth is entirely the fabrication/overexaggeration of Leftist scholars like Howard Zinn, Ward Churchill, etc. It is a complimentary lie to support another lie which is that the New World was home to millions upon millions of advanced Indians and not one or two million semisavages as is actually substantiated by archaeology and simple mathematics, and that these tens of millions were defeated by viral disease as not even the most crafty of Leftist revisionists could account for why a handful of Europeans could so quickly exterminate them.

The reality is that the New World was home to no more than a couple million semisavages when Europeans showed up and they were not exterminated or decimated by smallpox but merely interbred with or assimilated. Besides, smallpox was already around long before the Europeans showed up. Indeed isolation and good genetic health would have prevented smallpox from ever killing more than a few hundred people a year cross continent. Smallpox itself is an incredibly short lived germ and doesn't have anywhere near the capability of spreading in an environment like preindustrial America. More likely than not those uneducated conquistadors mistook skin offering scars for smallpox, mucb in the way modern doctors mistake them for severe acne.

[KingM]

There were a lot more than that. The combined forces of the Aztecs vs. the Spaniards/Tlaxcala during the war for the conquest of Mexico was 400-500,000 soldiers in total. You can't field armies of that size without several million civilians supporting them. The Incan empire also had millions of people. There was a major civil war going on when Pizarro arrived with armies in the tens of thousands in the field.

I've seen the archeological remnants of both of these civilizations. It's obvious they were complex and their people numerous. This place (Teotihuacan) compared favorably with some of the larger historical sites I've seen in SE Asia, North Africa, and Southern Europe.

[Deputy Barnes]

The simple fact of the matter is that tne CDC, WHO, etc have willingly hushed up this matter for as long as they possibly could. You can expect them to be about as honest and forthcoming with you as a pregnant teenager, because that's about as low as they stoop. The current director of the CDC, appointed by BHO, is a former community organizer and Leftist who hates America. For weeks they have denied that Ebola is heavily contagious and airborne and that shutting off immigrants could put a stop to it. All WRONG. Who would trust this little beady eyed twerp.

[Deputy Barnes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'T')here were a lot more than that. The combined forces of the Aztecs vs. the Spaniards/Tlaxcala during the war for the conquest of Mexico was 400-500,000 soldiers in total. You can't field armies of that size without several million civilians supporting them. The Incan empire also had millions of people. There was a major civil war going on when Pizarro arrived with armies in the tens of thousands in the field.

I've seen the archeological remnants of both of these civilizations. It's obvious they were complex and their people numerous. This place (Teotihuacan) compared favorably with some of the larger historical sites I've seen in SE Asia, North Africa, and Southern Europe.

[KingM]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', '
')Again, all of these figures are wholly unsubstantiated and the work of Leftist anthropologists like Howard Zinn, Ward Churchill, etc. Building big simple pyramids is not an indicator of technological advancement; just a society rife with slavery and superstitious beliefs in a warm climate. The Aztecs for example were still twirling sticks inbetween their palms to make fire in the 1400s like stupid animals; the superior huntergatherer Iroqoius had a fly wheel drill for this purpose. Quite a heightened understanding of physics for a "savage"! Most of the things we call "civilized" like mining, textile fabric and earthernware were developed tens of thousands of years ago and are therefore not really "civilized".

[Deputy Barnes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', '
')Again, all of these figures are wholly unsubstantiated and the work of Leftist anthropologists like Howard Zinn, Ward Churchill, etc. Building big simple pyramids is not an indicator of technological advancement; just a society rife with slavery and superstitious beliefs in a warm climate. The Aztecs for example were still twirling sticks inbetween their palms to make fire in the 1400s like stupid animals; the superior huntergatherer Iroqoius had a fly wheel drill for this purpose. Quite a heightened understanding of physics for a "savage"! Most of the things we call "civilized" like mining, textile fabric and earthernware were developed tens of thousands of years ago and are therefore not really "civilized".

[KingM]

The Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan is 42 million cubic feet of material. I've stood on top of it and looked down on all the other pyramids and temples and wide boulevards. You can't tell me a few thousand hunter gatherers built that. And that's just one of many enormous sites I've visited in Latin America.

[Deputy Barnes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', 'T')he Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan is 42 million cubic feet of material. I've stood on top of it and looked down on all the other pyramids and temples and wide boulevards. You can't tell me a few thousand hunter gatherers built that. And that's just one of many enormous sites I've visited in Latin America.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', ' ')You are free to CHOOSE to believe a fantasy, or not to believe in the truth,

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deputy Barnes', 'T')he current director of the CDC, appointed by BHO, is a former community organizer and Leftist who hates America.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Everything is just so screwed up.

GUESS WHAT HAPPENED in that Dallas hospital, with that first ebola patient? It turns out that MEDICAL WASTE and soiled diapers and sh*t was just left piling up and laying around because everyone was too scared to clean it up. So it just got worse and worse, I heard that on CNN just a bit ago. That hospital room was covered in waste and crawling with ebola.

Initial stages of pandemic CANNOT BE LEFT up to a hospital somewhere, where the heck is the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION and where is the federal response.

[GHung]

Numerous outlets reporting that a second nurse in Dallas has tested positive for Ebola.. She apparently boarded a jet and flew back to Dallas from Cleveland after symptoms began. Meanwhile, I saw an interview last night with a doctor who has been treating ebola patients in Africa with Médecins Sans Frontières. With hundreds of workers treating thousands of patients for decades, only one health worker is known to have contracted Ebola, even when re-using gowns, gloves and masks that are lower grade than these hospitals are using. Simple answer: liberal use of household bleach and water. They dip their gloves and spray their gowns with bleech, and wash repeatedly with the stuff. All waste products go immediately into a barrel of bleach solution. All areas are repeatedly sprayed.

He posits that the hubris and complexity of western health care is the greatest threat, causing simple and effective solutions to be ignored and rejected.

Gupta did it all wrong in his demo. He should have first dipped his gloves in a bleach solution and had his gown and exposed skin sprayed by a partner. All removed items should have been put into a container of solution immediately after removal. I didn't see any of that.

Alert!: If you were on Frontier flight #1143 from Cleveland to Dallas on October 13, call the CDC. Jeez.

Meanwhile, our local super market has been running a big BOGOF (half-price) sale on bleach ($1/gal.). I doubt it's related, but I stocked up since we use it for a lot of things. This store also has a large anti-bacterial/anti-viral wipe dispenser next to the carts at the front door; started during a flu outbreak a couple of years ago. I always wipe down the cart handle, etc., when I get a cart. I'm also a near-compulsive hand washer and avoid crowds. That's probably why I don't get colds and other crud.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'n')eedless to say the Nurses Union is blowing their stack and I don't blame them one little bit.

[Cid_Yama]

FEMA under the Office of Homeland Security is the agency with the authority and the responsibility.

No special emergency powers necessary.

I would suggest turning off Fox. Your brain is beginning to melt.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'F')EMA under the Office of Homeland Security is the agency with the authority and the responsibility.

[Cid_Yama]

This is not a White House responsibility. It is a Congressional Responsibility. It is the Legislative branch that has the Constitutional Authority.

The Executive Branch has only Veto power, per the Constitution.

Unless, of course, you want to give the office of the President dictatorial powers not granted by the Constitution.

[GHung]

Six: "It's all Obama's fault".
Sure, Six. I f you insist on being a simpleton while blaming all the failings of our bloated, hyper-complex disfuctional shit-pile of systems on a single person with limited powers and even less support from Congress, go ahead. I'm not defending Obama, but know better than to blame him for everything. Even the best President couldn't fix our totally FUBAR predicaments.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'T')his is not a White House responsibility. It is a Congressional Responsibility. It is the Legislative branch that has the Constitutional Authority.

The Executive Branch has only Veto power, per the Constitution.