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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Synapsid » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 15:35:04

JV153,

Not just that. Look into his religious beliefs.

And I forget who called him the last magician...or was it alchemist?
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby timmac » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 16:13:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'W')ow proof that dinosaurs are not from 60 million years ago but maybe only 4000 to 7000 years ago.. :shock:

There is nothing to debate here.

The Earth is c. 4.5 billion years old.
The universe is 13.8 billion years old.
Evolution by natural selection is as real as gravity.

Entertaining this tomfoolery is just clickbait.



I am not going to dispute the planet age because it was here before God created man, and yes there may have been some form of life on planet at that time, who knows, but if you have a OPEN MIND and investigate true history about life on earth before the great flood you will find drawings, artifacts, etc, etc that dinosaurs were on the planet during mans time, and yes there was giants in those days..

The universe could even be older than 14 billion years, but why does that matter..

A day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day..
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Lore » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 17:03:51

Yeah... I think I found some of those images as proof!

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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby dorlomin » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 17:19:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', ' ')that dinosaurs were on the planet during mans time
No.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Herr Meier » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 18:37:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', 'T')hey already have succeeded in getting a creationist education system in place in some parts of the US


most schools (maybe all?) are militant in only providing the Darwinian view of the world, ignoring all other possible explanations. It's a shame. A good school provides different view points. Unfortunately in the US (and in Europe where I went to school) only the "scientific" view (called Darwinism) is considered and taught even though several other (not only Creationism) theories can explain the world. I had to take advanced philosophy classes to realize that there's more to the world than science.

There was a case in the US a few years back, where a school realized that the 'Darwin' way is only one of many possible explanations. In addition to the federal mandated curriculum of Darwin, they added one lecture about other possible explanations of the origins of species. Wow, what a disaster that was. The religious militants of the order of Darwin swiftly pulled all kinds of legal actions to make sure only their religion is taught in schools, even though it cannot be proofed, just like the theory of design by intelligent agent.

I always wonder where the energy (and matter) of the universe comes from. So far the big bang theory was only able to approach time 0 to maybe what, 10^-40 seconds?
And since the origin cannot be explained by science, why should I "believe" anything else it tries to explain?
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Lore » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 18:54:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', 'T')hey already have succeeded in getting a creationist education system in place in some parts of the US


most schools (maybe all?) are militant in only providing the Darwinian view of the world, ignoring all other possible explanations. It's a shame. A good school provides different view points. Unfortunately in the US (and in Europe where I went to school) only the "scientific" view (called Darwinism) is considered and taught even though several other (not only Creationism) theories can explain the world. I had to take advanced philosophy classes to realize that there's more to the world than science.

There was a case in the US a few years back, where a school realized that the 'Darwin' way is only one of many possible explanations. In addition to the federal mandated curriculum of Darwin, they added one lecture about other possible explanations of the origins of species. Wow, what a disaster that was. The religious militants of the order of Darwin swiftly pulled all kinds of legal actions to make sure only their religion is taught in schools, even though it cannot be proofed, just like the theory of design by intelligent agent.

I always wonder where the energy (and matter) of the universe comes from. So far the big bang theory was only able to approach time 0 to maybe what, 10^-40 seconds?
And since the origin cannot be explained by science, why should I "believe" anything else it tries to explain?


A good public school, in the US at least, should teach the facts based on the accepted science. That's why we have separation of church and state. A faith based belief system is best left to theological institutions, but has no place in science. People can be left up to make up any alternative reality they'd like outside of science on their own time.

I find it also curious that people can believe in an eternal deity, but cannot fathom that an eternal universe may be just as likely.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Herr Meier » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 18:59:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '[')teach the facts.

Exactly, and since Darwinism is a theory with proof lacking, possible alternatives should be shown. But then again, that would anger the religious militants of the order of Darwin.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby dorlomin » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 19:04:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', 'm')ost schools (maybe all?) are militant in only providing the Darwinian view of the world, ignoring all other possible explanations.

The moderators may like this kind of clown show but it is total nonsense.
Evolution by natural selection is the only game in town.

If they want to dish out bans for that then fair enough. Bring em on.


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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Lore » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 19:05:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '[')teach the facts.

Exactly, and since Darwinism is a theory with proof lacking, possible alternatives should be shown. But then again, that would anger the religious militants of the order of Darwin.


There is a lot of evidence for Darwin's theory of evolution, really none for alternative beliefs.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]What is Darwin's Theory of Evolution?

More than 150 years after Charles Darwin published his theory, evolution remains controversial. Some politicians and religious leaders denounce it and would invoke a higher being as a designer to explain the complex world of living things, especially such specimens as humans.

School boards debate whether the theory of evolution should be taught alongside other ideas, such as intelligent design or creationism.

Mainstream scientists see no controversy. Evolution is well supported by many examples of changes in various species leading to the diversity of life seen today. So just what is evolution, and how does it work?

http://www.livescience.com/474-controve ... works.html
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Lore » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 19:06:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', 'm')ost schools (maybe all?) are militant in only providing the Darwinian view of the world, ignoring all other possible explanations.

The moderators may like this kind of clown show but it is total nonsense.
Evolution by natural selection is the only game in town.

If they want to dish out bans for that then fair enough. Bring em on.


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This is the kind of discussion that brings all the creationist nut cases out to attack science, oh brother.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby dorlomin » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 19:09:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', '
')Exactly, and since Darwinism is a theory with proof lacking,

Bugger off you religious loon.
Analysis of the human genome, and the genomes of all animals analysed so far has show the genetic correlation between them closely matches the estimates from analysis in morphological changes over time.

You are full of crud.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby dorlomin » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 19:11:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')This is the kind of discussion that brings all the creationist nut cases out to attack science, oh brother.
Gets the page hits up though. /sarc.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Herr Meier » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 19:12:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', 'E')volution by natural selection is the only game in town.


Of course it is, of course it is.....
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby dorlomin » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 19:15:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', '
')Thank God Almighty that you have made me open-minded enough to realize that there are more than one theory that can possible explain the observed.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 21:31:43

You know you are feeding and encouraging them?
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 27 Jul 2014, 22:15:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', 'E')xactly, and since Darwinism is a theory with proof lacking, possible alternatives should be shown.
Yes, kiddies, Darwin could be wrong, it could all have been created by a mystical magical being for unknowable reasons. And who created the mystical magical being? Don't ask. :P
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Sixstrings » Mon 28 Jul 2014, 03:49:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', 'm')ost schools (maybe all?) are militant in only providing the Darwinian view of the world, ignoring all other possible explanations.

The moderators may like this kind of clown show but it is total nonsense.
Evolution by natural selection is the only game in town.


Dorlomin and Keith are right.

Evolution by natural selection is as real as gravity.

The interesting thing about natural selection is just how self-evident it is. Darwin's book, On the Origin of Species, lays it out clear enough -- no fancy DNA needed. Just as he wrote about, you take a look at the Galapogos and the species of tortoises and birds and how they all have adaptations that enable them to do one thing or another, get at some kind of food because of a longer neck or a certain beak, etc.

Natural selection is just self-evident, it's so obvious.

What else explains something like a penguin, a flightless clumsy bird that can swim like a torpedo? Only natural selections explains that -- in other words, it makes no sense for an intelligent creator to make a bird that can swim but can't fly. It's clearly natural selection and evolution in progress.

Anyhow, that's rather interesting about the soft tissue found on a dinosaur. I wonder if they can get DNA from that?
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby timmac » Mon 28 Jul 2014, 08:13:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Herr Meier', 'm')ost schools (maybe all?) are militant in only providing the Darwinian view of the world, ignoring all other possible explanations.

The moderators may like this kind of clown show but it is total nonsense.
Evolution by natural selection is the only game in town.

If they want to dish out bans for that then fair enough. Bring em on.


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WOW you just showed your total hatred towards those that don't believe in evolution by hoping we are banned, do you really hate God that much, you must have a sad pathetic life..
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 28 Jul 2014, 08:19:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nyhow, that's rather interesting about the soft tissue found on a dinosaur. I wonder if they can get DNA from that?


Now that's an idea worth talking about.

However there is some irony in that, as we exist it's in the midst of a human induced die off, we think of brining back critters from a previous die off.
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Re: Scientist Fired After Soft Tissue Found On Dinosaur Foss

Unread postby Ibon » Mon 28 Jul 2014, 11:09:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '
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WOW you just showed your total hatred towards those that don't believe in evolution by hoping we are banned, do you really hate God that much, you must have a sad pathetic life..


Timmac, we have had some serious threads here at PO.com regarding the role spirituality will play in the future. Lot's of varied opinions. Polite dialogue.

The problem is you only get back as much as you dish out. This is perhaps a spiritual principal for you to contemplate.

Adolescent responses is about as much as you can hope for when you start threads merely to poke and provoke.

Are you truly a man of god? Or just another huckster like most Christians in the US who have not yet been able to untangle their spiritual beliefs from their dreams of consumerism and american exceptionalism.
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