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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 21:08:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '
')Hydrogenated oils are another one to rid as well that's also in a number of foods. It's basically synthetic fat that blocks your body's ability to absorb good fats. Good fats are needed for tissue regeneration and hormone production within the body. Absolutely necessary for good health.


Hydrogenation was something originally developed to enhance the shelf life of many oils - they otherwise go rancid quickly (especially in the days prior to refrigeration). The hydrogenation process is quite nasty and it destroys most of the nutritional benefits of the oil. If hydrogenation were developed today it likely would never be permitted to be used.

msg is another substance which is now used in soo many processed foods, especially when you consider all the ingredients that can be a proxy for msg (gelatin, yeast extract, hydrolyzed protein, soy protein, flavorings, etc.).

MSG was first isolated by a Japanese chemist from seaweed. During WWII the Japanese added msg to their troop rations to make them more palatable. Since WWII msg is has been used in an increasing number of processed foods. It's used purely for economic reasons as it makes cheap food taste better. Unfortunately it's also neurotoxic and the damage is cumulative. So it may accelerate diseases like alzheimers and parkinsons as well as cause many other problems (like ADHD &eye damage, see:http://www.mercola.com/2002/nov/9/msg.htm)
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 21:22:31

Prior to it's approval, biologists in peer journals were warning about aspartame leading to brain lesions. Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Searle, the maker of Aspertame that was seeking approval at the time. The approval process went through FDA in record time, despite the majority of the scientific community warning against it.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby lawnchair » Wed 20 Feb 2008, 21:52:12

The fact that aspartame is widely used and stevia (and stevia derivatives) are basically banned (in the US at least) is, well, entirely insane.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 02:42:59

Obviously, Stevia was banned to protect Searle's sales of nutrasweet and give it a foothold in the US. The fact that aspartame causes brain lesions, and this was know <b>before</b> approval and Stevia has health <b>benefits</b> and is banned in the one catagory that it would compete with aspartame, just goes to show how criminal all this is.

Every time I find out about one of these things, I just see red.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby jesus_of_suburbia_old » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 03:02:14

Stevia's banned? We sell it at the grocery where I work.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 03:48:07

You sell it as a dietary supplement. It is banned from being sold as a sweetener or food additive.

http://www.stevia.net/
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby shakespear1 » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 05:13:27

The one that takes the cake for me on this subject is the fact that Rumsfeld was involved in having this stuff approved.

Ultimate irony. :-)
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby TWilliam » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 05:14:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', 'H')ydrogenation was something originally developed to enhance the shelf life of many oils

Proctor & Gamble developed the hydrogenation process - originally using cottonseed oil - in their search for an inexpensive substitute for tallow to be used in their candlemaking operation. Only after the widespread adoption of electric lighting, when the market for their candles had virtually collapsed, did someone remark that the hydrogenated cottonseed oil resembled lard.

Now you know the origin of Crisco...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'O')bviously, Stevia was banned to protect Searle's sales of nutrasweet and give it a foothold in the US. The fact that aspartame causes brain lesions, and this was know before approval and Stevia has health benefits and is banned in the one catagory that it would compete with aspartame, just goes to show how criminal all this is.

Every time I find out about one of these things, I just see red.


Same kinda sh*t that was pulled with hemp, and for similar reasons. Vested interests didn't (and still don't, which is why it remains illegal in the U.S.) want the competition...
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby jupiters_release » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 06:49:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'W')here's Dukey with a conspiratorial youtube video when you need one?


It's disrespectful to policy makers to downplay neurotoxins in food supply as mere bureaucratic oversight. Give credit where its due, population mitigation isn't a choice. I can repost the 15 page article on aspartame history if you like.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Thu 21 Feb 2008, 22:44:24

ASSpartame tastes shitty. The last time I had it it gave me a headahce that lasted for hours and my vision went blurry... so from my experience, I would say that it is bad for you. Why do people eat the stuff? Judgng by taste alone, it is a piss poor replacement for sugar. It doesn't get rid of that sugar craving, in fact it makes it worse, it makes me crave sugar. It makes me think, "why did I give up sugar for this shitty tasting shit? I'd rather be fat than eat another bite of this toxic shit." Even water tastes better than aspartame and water is one of the blandest drinks.

Whenever somebody tells me that diet cola tastes better than regular cola, I know they've been brainwashed. Even urine tastes better than diet soda.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby SchroedingersCat » Fri 22 Feb 2008, 00:21:13

I used to get some nasty migraine headaches. Stay in bed with shades down for two days kind of headaches. A friend mentioned that my diet coke might be the problem (two or three a day.) I quit aspartame and haven't had a migraine since. That stuff is nasty.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby AlCzervik » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 21:15:39

Tried to go diet drinks for lent and pulled the ripcord the other day because of this thread. Interestingly, I had an insane migraine after avoiding diet pop for a couple of days. Anyway, I'm back on the high fructose corn syrup cokes and feeling great. I would think if you can limit your regular pop/corn chip intake to stave off the adult onset diabetes, that will beat all of the weird neurological stuff from aspartame. Anybody know anything about sucralose? Seems like most of the diet drinks are using that now instead of aspartame.
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby TWilliam » Sat 23 Feb 2008, 21:51:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', 'A')nyway, I'm back on the high fructose corn syrup cokes and feeling great. I would think if you can limit your regular pop/corn chip intake to stave off the adult onset diabetes


Umm... ever hear of water?

Dehydration's hidden symptoms

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s chronic dehydration persists and deepens, survivals mode of the body are activated to manage and preserve water for the most vital functions. Batmanghelidj notes: "There are five distinct conditions that denote states of dehydration and operative rationing processes... Asthma, Allergies, Hypertension, Constipation and Type II diabetes." These conditions, each in their own way, help the body conserve water and/or protect vital areas of the body from the ravaging effects of dehydration.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', 'A')nybody know anything about sucralose?


Here's a quick overview of some of the ongoing concerns with sucralose:

The Potential Dangers of Sucralose
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby shakespear1 » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 04:47:43

Glad more people are picking up on this issue.

Last night a documentary "Corporation" was shown and the subject of Nutra-Sweet came up.

Too bad that people have to learn all this so late, as the information was around for so many years. Reminds me of the dangers of smoking and the research that WAS available to SOME :-(
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby Cyrus » Sun 24 Feb 2008, 13:36:18

Glad to see my thread was resurfaced!

Aspartame is no joke. Honestly, after about 10 years of pretty heavy use I definetly was feeling the effects. My digestive system was always arguing with me, never had any energy, depressed, you get the picture. As of about a year and a half I haven't touched that shit and feel like the last 10 years of my life have been wasted. Shit....
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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sat 07 Jul 2012, 20:05:52

That sneaky diet pop:
The strange reason diet soda makes you fat
By Jessica Levine, Men's Health
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ant one reason for your beer belly? How about 100 quintillion? That's about how many bacteria live in your gut. And scientists now believe these bacteria can have a significant impact on your weight.
Consuming high amounts of fructose (a type of sugar), artificial sweeteners, and sugar alcohols (another type of low-calorie sweetener) cause your gut bacteria to adapt in a way that interferes with your satiety signals and metabolism, according to a new paper in Obesity Reviews. (If you've noticed you've been feeling tired all the time and gaining weight, your metabolism may be slowing.)
"An evolution of the gut flora to this new sweetener-rich environment has a potential to negatively impact our health," says Amanda Payne, Ph.D., lead author of the review. …

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Re: Aspartame...Dangerous?

Unread postby dissident » Sat 07 Jul 2012, 22:41:01

Obesity is closely linked to insulin resistance and Type II diabetes syndrome. Most people can consume large quantities of sugar and starch and the excess amount is turned into heat by the cells in the body. But about 25% of the population has a genetic disorder where the number of insulin receptors is less than average to varying degrees. This means that more insulin needs to be produced by the pancreas to achieve the same reduction of glucose in the blood compared to normal people. Since cells can decrease the number of insulin receptors and do so when there are high insulin levels, there is a feedback that leads to higher and higher levels of insulin required to control blood sugar. Eventually the pancreatic beta cells die off from toxicity of excessive insulin production. This failure gives Type II diabetes. It takes a decades to progress but a side effect is that instead of turning excess sugar in the blood into heat, the fat storage hormone called insulin induces fat accumulation. There is a bifurcation, slower sugar removal leads to more of it being converted to triglycerides and ultimately fat.

Another nasty side effect of insulin resistance is that the initial spike of insulin released to control blood sugar overshoots and produces sugar values that are lower than the ideal range. Low blood sugar levels induce hunger even though the original meal has not been metabolically expended. The media likes to focus on satiation as if the whole problem is self control, bacteria or some other factors. Anything but the high sugar (i.e. high carbohydrate) diets. There has been an epidemic of obesity and early onset Type II diabetes since 1980. That is when they started replacing fat in processed foods with corn starch. They also started to deep fry at fast food joints with vegetable oils and this produces trans-fat laden fried food. Trans-fats have demonstrated negative effects on the immune system. It would not be a surprise if they screw up other cellular processes. Every time I see something like "fat free cookies" I think how retarded the advertisement is. Fat has a very strong satiation effect, carbohydrates and sugar do not. Eating the cookie will make you fat even if it has zero fat, and then that is mostly for people with insulin resistance.
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