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THE Impeachment Thread (merged)

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THE Impeachment Thread (merged)

Unread postby Carlhole » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 19:50:45

Kerry to Push for Bush Impeachment! By Sher Zieve
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ohn Kerry announced Thursday that he intends to present Congress with The Downing Street Memo, reported by the London Times 1 May 2005. As reported by NewsMax, the memo purports to include minutes from a July 2002 meeting with Tony Blair, in which Blair ostensibly said that President Bush’s Administration “fixed” intelligence on Iraq in order to justify the Iraqi war. In an interview with the Standard Times, Kerry said: "It's amazing to me the way it escaped major media discussion. It's not being missed on the Internet, I can tell you that."
The Boston Globe published an article by Ralph Nader, Tuesday, in which Nader also called for President Bush’s impeachment. The story is being carried on Michael Moore’s website and the Democratic Underground. Failed presidential candidate Kerry advised that he will begin the presentation of his case for President Bush’s impeachment to Congress, on Monday.

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Unread postby RonMN » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 19:54:53

WOW! If it's true...The hypocratic...OOPS...I mean democratic party will NOT survive this one :lol:
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Unread postby BiGG » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 20:03:44

I will believe it when I see it as just being on the disgusting piece of filth known as Michael Moore’s website says it’s a lie, however, I like the sound of President Dick Cheney
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Unread postby RonMN » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 20:32:46

President Dick Cheyney :) Sounds almost as good as PRESIDENT LAURA BUSH 2008 !
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Unread postby BiGG » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 21:09:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'P')resident Dick Cheyney :) Sounds almost as good as PRESIDENT LAURA BUSH 2008 !

How about Laura or Jeb & Condoleezza for Vice President!
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Unread postby gg3 » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 21:10:52

Whether you support or oppose the present Administration and its policies, any rational person has got to be in favor of conducting a proper investigation when credible and serious charges are raised.

The Downing Street documents are minutes -legal records- of meetings, not just memos. The allegation is that these documents provide prima facie evidence of high crimes that are impeachable offenses.

Do you want an administration whose effectiveness is impaired by rumors and accusations? Or do you want an administration that is operating free of such impediments because it either has been cleared of allegations or is a new administration about which there are no allegations?
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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 21:11:59

I have been asserting for a while the Jeb will be the next, and last, president of the United States.
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Unread postby RonMN » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 21:26:31

Jeb...no Laura or Condi...yes!
Jeb just ain't got that certain sump'in'...

Anyhoo...do you see what this crap is trying to do? It's trying to make Prez Bush a "lame duck"...and it's a pretty LAME attempt!
I'd like to see it...BRING IT ON! Try to impeach dubya! I double dare ya :P
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Unread postby BiGG » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 21:31:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', 'W')hether you support or oppose the present Administration and its policies, any rational person has got to be in favor of conducting a proper investigation when credible and serious charges are raised.
The Downing Street documents are minutes -legal records- of meetings, not just memos. The allegation is that these documents provide prima facie evidence of high crimes that are impeachable offenses.
Do you want an administration whose effectiveness is impaired by rumors and accusations? Or do you want an administration that is operating free of such impediments because it either has been cleared of allegations or is a new administration about which there are no allegations?

Make no mistake, I like George and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise. If he did anything wrong I of course want to see him convicted like that liar Bill Clinton should have been.
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Unread postby MonteQuest » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 21:42:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', 'M')ake no mistake, I like George and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise. If he did anything wrong I of course want to see him convicted like that liar Bill Clinton should have been.

Duh...Clinton was impeached. 8)
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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 21:43:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'J')eb just ain't got that certain sump'in'...

He's got a dad that appointed a couple of supreme court justices. What more "sump'in" does he need?
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Unread postby Specop_007 » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 22:32:35

Where I come from we call this a "Sore loser"
Christ, have ANYONE but Kerry push for this. Shit, have Bird Bird and the Teletubbies push for it, but don't let Kerry!
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Unread postby Trab » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 22:48:47

For what it's worth, Kerry is far from the first pol to pick this up & run with it. Rep. Conyers of Michigan & 88 of his buddies in the House have already asked the White House for comment. Hopefully some added pressure from the Senate will get some movement on this issue so we can get to the bottom of things.

Regardless of your politcal persuasion, the memo brings up very disturbing facts that need investigation. Clinton's fiasco was one thing, but manipulating the country into a 'wag the dog' kind of war is much more harsh.
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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 22:54:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Trab', 'R')egardless of your politcal persuasion, the memo brings up very disturbing facts that need investigation. Clinton's fiasco was one thing, but manipulating the country into a 'wag the dog' kind of war is much more harsh.

Ohh, come on. Those guys are all corrupt sleeze bags. The only question is whether or not they get caught.
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Unread postby threadbear » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 23:00:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')here I come from we call this a "Sore loser"
Christ, have ANYONE but Kerry push for this. Shit, have Bird Bird and the Teletubbies push for it, but don't let Kerry!

Kerry can still redeem himself, if he presents this to congress with his hair in dreadlocks, smoking a joint.
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Unread postby Specop_007 » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 23:10:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')here I come from we call this a "Sore loser"
Christ, have ANYONE but Kerry push for this. Shit, have Bird Bird and the Teletubbies push for it, but don't let Kerry!

Kerry can still redeem himself, if he presents this to congress with his hair in dreadlocks, smoking a joint.

lol! Dont forget wearing his 3 Purple Hearts.
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Unread postby Rhinestones » Fri 03 Jun 2005, 23:35:09

I haven't yet seen any direct quote from Kerry calling for impeachment.

Sometime in January, standing under a clear night sky it just came to me: "Bush is going to be impeached and removed"
My attention was not on politics at all around then and the feeling just came out of the blue. Say whatever you like about epiphanies. Will this lead to a just and responsible leadership? HAHAHAHA! Just more smoke and mirrors i'm sure. It seems to me that TPTB have been subtly telegraphing bush's ouster for months and that an impeachment, successful or not, will only be intended to distract us from the BIG picture, and divide the nation further. Who needs a PO die-off or an engineered pandemic if the little people will eagerly handle the reduction for you? Civil War is a very real possibility if americans don't WAKE the F@#* UP! that the real enemies of freedom and humanity aren't even on the simpletons linear left/right scale.

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Unread postby Carlhole » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 00:03:00

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Excerpt from "Beyond Bush Part I", July, 2003 by Michael C. Ruppert:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are serious signs of a major political revolt brewing in the United States - one that could end the Bush Presidency - George W. Bush still has his finger on the trigger and he knows that his only hope for survival is to pull it. U.S. and British intelligence agencies are leaking documents left and right disputing White House "evidence" against Iraq that has repeatedly been shown to be falsified, plagiarized and forged. Quiet meetings are being held in Washington between members of Congress and attorneys like Ramsey Clark discussing Bush's impeachment. Leaders of the World Trade Organization (WTO), as reported in a March 15 story in the International Herald Tribune have said, "All international institutions would suffer a loss of credibility if the one superpower appeared to be choosing which rules to obey and which to ignore." And a Rockefeller has called for an investigation of a Bush. On March 14, the Associated Press reported that W. Va. Senator Jay Rockefeller has asked the FBI to investigate forged documents which were presented first by Britain and then the United States showing that Iraq had been trying to purchase uranium from the African country of Niger for its weapons program. Of all the glaring falsehoods told by the administration, the fact that these forgeries were noted by a Rockefeller may make them the second-rate Watergate burglary of the 21st century...

There are few things more closely connected to or identified with Bush family power than globalization and the Rockefellers. He has most likely failed both of them and both have the power to remove him...

In the meantime, there are increasing signs that the U.S. political and economic elites are laying the groundwork to make the Bush administration, specifically Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Perle and Wolfowitz, sacrificial scapegoats for a failed policy in time to consolidate post 9-11 gains, regroup and move forward.

That prophecy is coming true with a vengeance.
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Unread postby SidneyTawl » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 00:23:33

Prophecy or Prediction. Big difference.
I hope those that even if they don't like John Kerry use this opportunity to at least work toward ONE investigation that is REAL>

Its up to you you know. It really is. You can't sit and make it happen. You have to put in some physical effort IMO.
Rallies, Petitions, discussing calmly the points with novices. Calls and letters and emails to offices of Representives AT ALL LEVELS>

Its not about the messenger, ITS ABOUT THE MESSAGE. Don't let the messenger get in the way. Because the truth is what is at stake. Even a messenger trying to deceive may be caught in his own trap.

This is a great site with great people, most do their homework, and try to pull back the veil of fog that works against us each day to see the truth.
Truth is the goal for many, others choose other paths.
This is a time in my opinion that you must work toward yours, whatever it may be.
This may be one of the most important decisions you make in your future.

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Unread postby k_semler » Sat 04 Jun 2005, 00:26:54

I personally don't care whether Bush stays or goes. I just don't want Comrade Clinton to be the POTUS.
Here Lies the United States Of America.

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