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OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 11:19:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'H')e don't care about poor people does he?

The guy is a total shill for the wealthy class of americans


And Obama is .... ?
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 08 Mar 2012, 11:22:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', '
')Human sentiment and ideology is always changing, a few hundred years ago humans were OK with slavery.


they still ok with it all over in Africa, Haiti, a few spots in Asia. And you are ok with it too.
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 10 Mar 2012, 20:20:03

Ann Romney criticizes entitlement spending:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')We’ve been all across this country. Do you know what women care about? Women care about jobs. Women care about the economy. They care about their children, and they care about the debt.”

So how do women feel about the economy’s direction? “They’re angry, and they’re furious about the entitlement debt that we’re leaving our children,” Ann Romney said, Politico reports. “This is what we’re hearing when we’re out there. This is our message. It’s an economic message. It’s about the future for our children.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Ann-Romney-Massachusetts-primary/2012/03/07/id/431755


Gee, what's an "entitlement?' Well for one thing, an entitlement is what helps care for your aged parents in the nursing home. Oh yeah, I know, all the conservatives on this forum are super rich and don't need Medicare for any of their family. But out there in the real world.. even the rich divest their aged parents assets so that they qualify for medicaid. That's the reality folks. Poor folks use these entitlements, middle class, and the rich do too.

Entitlements are also how people with MS get some help. People sicker than Ann Romney, folks in wheelchairs and some are blind and they don't have Ann Romney's $250 million.

But Ann Romney says American women are supposedly outraged about all these entitlements helping old folks and the wheelchair bound and the blind. :roll:

Nice try there Romneys, but women are probably more spooked by forced vaginal probes and the Right calling them sluts and conservative men not even understanding that "birth control" pills are for all kinds of medical conditions not just birth control. As if we should even be arguing birth control in 2012.

About the entitlements and the debt.. tangentially here she's talking about the sound money issue, but her husband and her political party are full of it. If Republicans really cared about the debt:

1. They'd never have gone into Iraq. That cost trillions in debt.
2. They'd never have de-regulated the banks. The ensuing financial crisis cost another trillion in outright debt, plus trillions in money printing from the Fed.

Don't be fooled. When Republicans talk about "entitlements," they're talking about your aunt with MS or your mother in the nursing home. They aren't talking about bankster entitlements, nor the special tax loopholes for the super rich, or Big Oil's subsidies, or all the other "entitlements" for business and the rich.
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 11 Mar 2012, 04:17:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
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Gee, what's an "entitlement?'


Gee, whats a "job"?

The suggestion by liberals that its OK that Obama's policies have produced the weakest recovery since the great depression, with the net loss of 6 million jobs and the destruction of millions more high paying jobs in exchange for new jobs as Wall-Mart greeters and McDonalds counter people is nuts.

Its better to have a good job that earns a good salary than to have to depend on the government for foodstamps.
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sun 11 Mar 2012, 05:43:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'h')e suggestion by liberals that its OK that Obama's policies have produced the weakest recovery since the great depression, with the net loss of 6 million jobs and the destruction of millions more high paying jobs in exchange for new jobs as Wall-Mart greeters and McDonalds counter people is nuts.


Ha.. sounds like you're talking about the Bush years.

This didn't start with Obama. These are the FRUITS of Republican policies for 30 damn years now. Remember Clinton? He was a "New Democrat." "New" means "Republican" on economics -- NAFTA, open borders millions of illegals, shipping all the jobs offshore. That's all Republicanism, Plant.

You never respond when I talk about this, because you can't -- if you did you'd have to face the reality of things, why the nation is where it's at, it's a 30 - 40 year progression to where we are, and you'd have to admit these are due to PRO GLOBALIST CAPITALIST polices hardly PRO-LABOR.

You'd have to admit Reaganomics, then doubling down on that with the Bush cuts, was on the whole a failure. But you can't admit that, so keep posting that more tax cuts for the rich will somehow cause investors to create jobs here rather than offshore.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')ts better to have a good job that earns a good salary than to have to depend on the government for foodstamps.


Well, again, these are the fruits of 30 years of pro-rich policies.

Are you really surprised food stamp usage began exploding under Bush? That's the demarcation point there, Clinton set some things in motion (Republican ideas) and the damage hit critical mass in Bush's first term. Too many jobs gone, too much sent offshore and now we just have federal reserve bubbles. Oh, we have innovation still but thanks to extreme automation and efficiency the companies of the future only need a handful of workers.

None of what I say fits in the standard "Democrat vs. Republican" paradigm (cuz wake up their both the same), so fine keep blaming Democrats for being like Republicans. I mean come on plant, what do you think Romney would do -- cancel the new free trade deals? Cancel NAFTA? You think Romney would rebuild an industrial base with high wages? Of course he wouldn't.

I saw some guy pushing his book on CNN the other day. The gist was that the old jobs are never coming back, but neither can everyone be a iPhone app developer. The reality is we are stuck with a big swath of McJobs because those are the jobs that can't be outsourced (oh they would if they could). According to the author, we have to somehow figure out a way to get the McJobs to pay more. As a nation we can't continue on like this, tens of millions of families in poverty, part time McJobs, only paying $10 an hour. Locally where I live, even county government is paying just ten bucks an hour for clerk type jobs.
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sun 11 Mar 2012, 06:37:40

2.5 gallons an hour will soon be looked back at fondly as the glory days.
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 11 Mar 2012, 17:24:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
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Its better to have a good job that earns a good salary than to have to depend on the government for foodstamps.


Well, again, these are the fruits of 30 years of pro-rich policies.


Obama liberalized the rules for foodstamps in 2009 to make them more "pro-poor."

This made millions more people eligible, and for longer periods of time. Obama's pro-poor policy changes resulted in an explosion of foodstamp use since he took office. Its at all time record levels now.
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 11 Mar 2012, 18:37:57

Rich ppl live to eat

Poor ppl eat to live
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Re: OPEN MESSAGE TO MRS. ROMNEY

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 12 Mar 2012, 11:51:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', '
')The world community does not have to destroy local community, integrity, personal history of good
or bad aspects, or society.


With all due respect E : yes it does.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', 'B')ut if the whole deal is the race for quick profit, which it is.
Irrelevant. What other goals can possibly be there? Slow profit? Seriously.
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