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Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Thu 19 Jan 2012, 23:17:54

I have come as close as I can to calling it. I have made clear where the names can be found easily, hidden among a few thousand other names.

Edit to add one more clue. The relevant families are of Northern European heritage and their authorities were firmly established before the beginning of the 15th century. Hope that helps :)

A major influence and place to look for clues is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Plantagenet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_wo ... in_Chaucer
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby papa moose » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 01:00:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'A') major influence and place to look for clues is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_wo ... in_Chaucer


Well as i have nothing better to do just at the moment...

Chaucer's "The Cook's Tale" is the first recorded use of "Harry", so from that perhaps you are suggesting that His Ranga-ness is the true High Lord Chancellor of the World and that simple elder brother William is simple a puppet to sit upon the throne in the public eye?

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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby AgentR11 » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 01:29:40

ah man, you piddled a soap opera on my doomer porn.
You really think those guys still have enough bang to make things happen?
Yes we are, as we are,
And so shall we remain,
Until the end.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 03:12:54

Read the history, the mysterious Plantagenets, where did they go after the 1500's?
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby papa moose » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 03:21:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'R')ead the history, the mysterious Plantagenets, where did they go after the 1500's?


Why refer to them as mysterious, didn't the family basically rule most of Engalnd and France for a hundred or so years? Hardly "mysterious".

As for where they went, i always check under the sofa cushions first after that i blame it on the Bermuda Triangle!

:twisted: Just pulling ya chain, mate. Beer o'clock, have a good w/end!
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby radon » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 03:31:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '
')What I found surprised me but did not surprise me.


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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 07:48:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('radon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '
')What I found surprised me but did not surprise me.


:shock:


Simple, I knew the OWS are full of shit, the 1% is totally arbitrary. What I found is that there are probably not more than 3 Americans in real power in the whole world and they are under the thumb of Western European, British based and educated so called Peers. It's .00000000001% a few people not a bloody country or a certain clique of rich hollywood rub.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 08:33:52

Ouch! "and they were Tazin and Tazin and Tazin on ma butthole...." :)
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 09:20:38

I would love to hear from AmericanDream on this subject. He was a major influence in my beginning to research the intriguing position of British Law in the upper echelons of power.
It is a vastly interesting subject, on which I have no claim to have all the answers.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby rshizzle » Fri 20 Jan 2012, 22:50:19

I agree it's interesting. I've always enjoyed contemplating a conspiratorial view on history. Very well possible too. I don't believe that the earth is hollow and filled with reptilians or anything, but it's very well possible that there are a few very powerful people pulling strings.

I wish I could find it, but there was a site that had tied all the POTUS to a certain British Royal family.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Jan 2012, 01:07:09

The psychopathology evident in the period of establishment of the British Monarchy is infamous. Somehow people seem to think this all popped and fizzled after the Reformation.
Many buy into the Masonic Order/ Illuminati/ Jewish semi-hidden conspiracy.
Many more believe the status quo media hype on America the Super Power, who's President is King of the World.

I am choosing to believe psychopathology not only continues and strengthens it's grip, but that it runs in families and certain families have been breeding the top order predators for many hundreds of years.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Jan 2012, 02:39:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rshizzle', 'I') agree it's interesting. I've always enjoyed contemplating a conspiratorial view on history. Very well possible too. I don't believe that the earth is hollow and filled with reptilians or anything, but it's very well possible that there are a few very powerful people pulling strings.

I wish I could find it, but there was a site that had tied all the POTUS to a certain British Royal family.


Poked around a bit and found this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')residents related to royalty

[edit]Presidents related to British royalty
George Washington (descendant of Edward III of England)
Thomas Jefferson (descendant of Edward III of England)
James Madison (descendant of Edward I of England)
James Monroe (descendant of Edward III of England)
John Quincy Adams (descendant of Edward III of England)
William Henry Harrison and his grandson, Benjamin Harrison (descendants of Edward I of England)
Zachary Taylor (descendant of Edward I of England)
Franklin Pierce (descendant of Henry I of England)
Rutherford Hayes (descendant of William I of Scotland and William the Conqueror)
Grover Cleveland (descendant of Edward I of England)
Theodore Roosevelt (descendant of James I of Scotland and Edward III of England)
William Taft (descendant of Edward III of England)
Warren Harding (descendant of Henry II of England)
Calvin Coolidge (descendant of Edward I of England)
Herbert Hoover (descendant of Edward III of England)
Franklin Roosevelt (descendant of James II of Scotland)
Harry S. Truman (descendant of Robert III of Scotland)
Richard Nixon (descendant of Henry II of England)
Gerald Ford (descendant of Edward I of England)
Jimmy Carter (descendant of Edward III of England)
George H. W. Bush and his son, George W. Bush (descendants of Edward I of England and Robert II of Scotland)
Barack Obama (descendant of Edward I of England and William the Lion of Scotland)
As a result, all of the listed people are direct descendants of Alfred the Great and William the Conqueror.

HM Queen Elizabeth II is among the closest living relatives of George Washington, through their descent from Augustine Warner, Jr., Speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses. His daughter Mildred was the grandmother of Washington, while his daughter Mary is an ancestor of the Queen's mother, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon.[1]

[edit]Presidents related to Irish royalty
George Washington (descendant of Dermot MacMurrough)
Andrew Jackson (descendant of Dermot MacMurrough)
Ronald Reagan (descendant of Brian Boru)
Barack Obama (descendant of Brian Boru)
[edit]Presidents related to other royalty
Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt are related to the Rajahs of Sarawak
[show]
Roosevelt ancestry


Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogic ... ted_States
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 21 Jan 2012, 02:46:17

I believe this and other recent posts by Sea Gypsy indicates he has found solace inside the liquor cabinet. I volunteer to do an intervention and secure said liquor in a undisclosed location close to my man-cave.

This will not be an easy intervention as such things go. But what I do is for the betterment of all who haunt the hallowed halls of Peak Oil.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Jan 2012, 03:29:56

All ye who dare enter know none has yet escaped. There is plenty to share Cog, were you ever to find my cave.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sat 21 Jan 2012, 04:40:30

The Forbes list of Billionaires is notably lacking in people with source = "old money". Just a bunch of nouveau riche braggarts. Either the super-rich dynasties have squandered their loot, or they keep a low profile and don't tell Forbes how much they have. How does Forbes get this info, anyway?
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Jan 2012, 04:48:26

Interesting, but a side note. Having tons of money vs having executive power are not necessarily the same. I am seeing the billionaire class as a branch of the executive, a sub branch, not the main trunk of authority.
It's possible to be an ok human being and a self made billionaire, IMO.
The folks I am pointing to could not be called ok, they are bloodlusty tyrants in the extreme.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby rshizzle » Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:26:29

Cog, sometimes it's an interesting exercise to speculate on such things. I definitely don't think it makes SeaGypsy a crackpot as you seem to believe.

Those who control the writing of history have power beyond comprehension. Especially when, in the western world, critical thinking has been eradicated in the education realm. At the very least posts like these provide a good exercise in looking beyond surface deep at the world we live in.
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 24 Jan 2012, 19:20:09

Cog and me have a history, nothing to worry about, drinking buddies in the making.

All I am doing is looking for a common thread.
Without calling out names I am looking back over the last 800 years or so (being the period of European world domination), looking for a pattern of domination. In some aspects subtle, in others gross, I believe I am beginning to perceive a pattern stretching right back throughout this period and alive and well now. I do not want to fall into the trap of getting information from tinfoil sites which almost invariably go from the Bilderbergers to Masonic conspiracy with Aliens as described in Egyptian glyphs etc. I have the feeling in my bones that any theory relying on Roswell/ Alien conspiracies, must be a little thin on evidence.

The pattern I am looking at and trying to dissect is about the who's who behind the: heads of state and commerce/ faces of Hollywood/ Royalty and who really benefits from the many political manipulations occuring simultaneously for no apparent reason around the world. Why is the divestment from reality so well invested? Who are all these clowns really serving, our so called 'Leaders'?
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Re: Is the M/E the UK's revenge 4 War of Independence?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 24 Jan 2012, 19:48:21

Another point for those who think I'm being a nut or grasping at straws on this thread to consider: at what point did the Greatest Nation on Earth surrender it's sovereignty? Who to? Why? Did anyone get told? Why not? Why the hell are we at war over suspect issues on the other side of the planet? When, if ever, does America reclaim it's sovereignty? Is there a potential government which understands this core issue and is prepared to do something about it? When do Americans pull the Hollywood reality generator off and deal with reality?

Please stop sending your young men to war.
Please stop using space tech to kill underarmed theosophical opponents on the other side of the world.
Please wake up and realize you are being used, milked dry. You are making yourself the bully boy of today and the perfect scapegoat of tomorrow.

Most of all, reclaim your Democracy and the Constitution.
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