[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ObiWan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'B')oy, that's a thread-killer if ever I read one. Yawn.

(Nothing personal, Obi-Wan.)

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ObiWan', '2')000 A.D. and we are only in the Bronze Age? I think someone has seriously misconstrued their human technology periods.

[ObiWan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')In many ways, the Native Americans were more advanced than the White Man. Look what we have done to the Earth, we are NOT living in harmony with nature any more. This is advancement?

[vision-master]

I see you don't understand. Like the Shaman's of today say - Western man has lost his connection with the spirit World. Think about it!

[Cog]

If the demise of the American Indian is any example of being connected to the spirit world, than it doesn't sound like much of a survival advantage.

[Lore]

We all join the spirit world eventually.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')f the demise of the American Indian is any example of being connected to the spirit world, than it doesn't sound like much of a survival advantage.

[Pretorian]

The Spirit obviously had no slightest idea about human races.

[Hawkcreek]

One thing I think we could use is a faceplate somewhat like the old LATOC entry screen. It gave a thorough introduction into PO, with many links and supporting facts right off the bat. For new people that is enough to grab them. Might help hook some of the shoppers who duck into the site, see only a lot of bitching and moaning about inconsequential’s, and run back out.
Just a thought.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'O')ne thing I think we could use is a faceplate somewhat like the old LATOC entry screen. It gave a thorough introduction into PO, with many links and supporting facts right off the bat. For new people that is enough to grab them. Might help hook some of the shoppers who duck into the site, see only a lot of bitching and moaning about inconsequential’s, and run back out.
Just a thought.

[AgentR11]

Fire and Air met and created a cataclysmic explosion.
Fire and Air decided they liked each other after all... and incinerated the planet.

[AirlinePilot]

Interesting thread. I think we've discussed most of the principles, arguments, data available, and gamed a lot of what is coming. For now this means we have kind of run out of things to argue/discuss/debate.

What i believe, is that sometime within the next year or two, and maybe a bit farther out than that, we will realize as a planet that global oil production has begun the inexorable decline that we have all been warning about. The little boy who cried wolf will finally be listened to.

This site will once again become a clearing house for information and discussion on what to do and how to handle the economic and social changes which will befall us. Not doom mind you but the measurable, and tangible changes which have to come as society realizes that without cheap crude oil, we all will be noticeably impacted.

I hang around here now for the threads on alternatives, and discussion of preparations more than anything else. That plus the debate on our global financial issues keeps me interested. I embrace PO and understand the impact it will have on mankind's future. As we get down the road a piece I think you will see the popularity and the traffic at this site pick up once again.

For now the impact of limits to growth has us.."distracted" a bit. I doubt that lasts very long. As others have noted, global population continues to grow and our paradigm of economic growth at any cost is bumping up against the wall. BAU without cheap energy to power it cannot be sustained. The calm before the storm is a wonderful analogy to the ups and downs this site is experiencing.

[evilgenius]

This site has definitely seen its share of posting clusters come and go. When a new event like the Gulf oil spill happens or gas prices strike a significant level there seems always to have been some person or persons that have had a lot to say over a short time. It has taken me since I signed on to get to just over 1300 posts in Dec of 2011. Many new people who come at those times reach that level of posting within a few weeks. Some of them actually have important or relevant things to say. I am glad, though, that this site has not ever decided to lose itself in chasing after that sort of content. By remaining a place where temporary people can always come, or return after long absences Peak Oil has actually stayed relevant. The moderators do a good job here of keeping the lid on spam. They occasionally chastise folks for stepping over a line here and there (me included). They mostly hold back on the scorched earth punishments, preserving egos as much as a place like this needs to.

I have learned a few things about how to function in this kind of space. First of all, as much as I would like to keep a page or pages where I have a manifesto going I don't do that. Instead I talk about my beliefs and insights as I go along, filtering them into similar topics or as asides to a topic which is close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades. This makes it really hard to go back and pinpoint where I said something, but if I have to prove that then I should really just leave that particular discussion because people aren't listening anyway. Secondly, you have to leave your narcissistic tendencies at the door. As much as we all want everyone to fall all over themselves praising us for what we say it really is better if these pages contain discussions than insistence and chest thumping. In this spirit I think I have also learned that I do have to tolerate trolls. They will go away on their own when they don't get the kind of attention they want. If they did have something good to say they will elevate the site, if not the attitudes of those who don't agree with them. Any third party looking on will spot the troll if you are pleasant to them and they are trollish back to you. You don't have to make a big fuss about it.

[thuja]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'O')r have I?

I went away from here for a couple of years. Have been participating again for about a month.

But the site seems half-dead to me now. Posts go unanswered. People aren't as active, or reactive. There's less humor, less passion. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how it seems. Could be I've become a stranger.

"You can't go home again." ---Thomas Wolfe

[Pretorian]

Haha thuja you nailed it again!

[vision-master]

The song remains the same.....

[Roy]

Guys like Jack, Kpeavey, MonteQuest, ReverseEngineer, Ilikeplants, Ksemler, Roccman and other hard core doomers have departed. I always enjoyed their slightly different perspective.

Their departure has changed the whole flavor of the place.

The cornucopians have always been here in one form or another - remember JohnDenver? And the long time members that still post hereare mostly what I would call moderates.

And we've got VM to take Rapheal's place. Like the fast crashers, I enjoy the different perspective provided by Rapheal and now by VM whether I agree with them or not.

Having a diverse base of posters enriches discussions, exposes new information sources and new ways of looking at things.

Echo chamber forums don't hold my attention for long.

There's still enough diversity of opinion here to make a daily visit worthwhile and for all of you who contribute to this board, I say thank you. Whether I agree with you or not.

Cheers.

[SeaGypsy]

+1 Thuja!
3 years ago I was vey nervous about all this, now I can see how it is likely to play out.

[Heineken]

Share your vision of how it's likely to play out, Gypsy?

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thuja', '
')
PO.com has changed...

Because Fast Crashers were wrong.

And yeah- its more boring because Slow Crashing is more boring.