[Cog]

Romantic? Hardly. More of a bitter struggle to survive for all.

My point, which I can explain to you, but can't understand for you, is simple. The monstrosity of a federal government, intervening in every aspect of our lives, carries with it the seeds of its own destruction.

[The Practician]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '[')b]The thing about the libertarian end-of-the-world romanticism is that the libertarian part is phony, and at the heart of the fantasy is gaining power over other people. Various types of various doomer porn often feature graphic violence against the weak (who are first dehumanized).

[The Practician]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '
')Yes by all means the collective should use their boots to stamp out the sickness of individualism and self-reliance.
Freedom is slavery.

[Cog]

Actually it is the growth of fossil fuel use which destroyed the sense of community and enabled the creation of this monstrosity we called the federal government.

We will have community again of a sort, but that is after some rather difficult times ahead. While there is energy left to complete an orderly power-down, the entitlement class must be weaned from their dependence on the system we have created. To not do so now will only increase their suffering later on. You should have more compassion on the plight of the poor.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he thing about the libertarian end-of-the-world romanticism is that the libertarian part is phony, and at the heart of the fantasy is gaining power over other people.

[The Practician]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'A')ctually it is the growth of fossil fuel use which destroyed the sense of community and enabled the creation of this monstrosity we called the federal government.

[The Practician]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he thing about the libertarian end-of-the-world romanticism is that the libertarian part is phony, and at the heart of the fantasy is gaining power over other people.

[Shaved Monkey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'A')ustralia's minimum wage is $15.51 per hour or $589.30 per week
Unemployment is 5.3%
Unemployed get rental assistance and $486.80 a fortnight(as a single)
Plus free Medical for everyone
seems to work ok here

[Cog]

The bubble bursting in China and Australia should be more or less simultaneous then.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he thing about the libertarian end-of-the-world romanticism is that the libertarian part is phony, and at the heart of the fantasy is gaining power over other people.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an you name me a political philosophy that at the heart of it's fantasy does not want to gain power over other people. Thanks.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he thing about the libertarian end-of-the-world romanticism is that the libertarian part is phony, and at the heart of the fantasy is gaining power over other people.

[PrestonSturges]

You seem to be stuck in a syllogism or maybe a sophomore class in feminist theory. I can't tell from here.

[Pretorian]

It's great that you know some of those hard words Pres, it would have been even better if you could explain yourself more or less coherently , with or without usage of scrabble dictionary.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he thing about the libertarian end-of-the-world romanticism is that the libertarian part is phony, and at the heart of the fantasy is gaining power over other people. Various types of various doomer porn often feature graphic violence against the weak (who are first dehumanized).

[PrestonSturges]

I got curious a few months back if there had ever been a solid intellectual, economic, or philosophical basis for libertarianism. I thought it would be something like Hayek, where there had been some decent work that is now mostly popular with people who completely miss the point. But there never was any real basis for libertarianism. I'm not saying that the basis of libertarianism is "wrong," it was simply never there. It's popularity has always depended on wealthy people funding the development of proposals that will replace the hated income tax with something more regressive, so it's more about protecting inherited privilege than merit. Other than that, since the 1920s, libertarianism has been stuck on precious metals and the looming collapse of civilization for literally 80+ years. Some decades that seems more topical than others, but you can say the same thing about any generic Millenialist doomsday cult, and libertarianism seems to appeal to the same emotions. For some people, it seems to be the atheist version of the rapture.

I was willing to give a chance to see if there was any ideas I could endorse, but there's not enough there to agree or disagree with, so I just say "Meh."

[The Practician]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')
"gaining power over other people" is probably the perfect antithesis of libertarianism. You need to read a litlle more about libertarianism.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The Practician', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')"gaining power over other people" is probably the perfect antithesis of libertarianism. You need to read a litlle more about libertarianism.

[Serial_Worrier]

It's very simple, if you need food stamps to survive you're a defective and should be allowed to starve.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'I')t's very simple, if you need food stamps to survive you're a defective and should be allowed to starve.