[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '.').. let's imagine civil unrest escalating and keeping in mind the slippery slope AgentR11 mentions, and then you get a McCarthyism style witch hunt in 5-10 years from now looking into peoples past to investigate their sympathies with subversive and protest movements, and you can see how the search can reach all the way back to even such innocuous forums as peakoil.com.

[rangerone314]

Sometimes I wish a g-d plague would come through and wipe out the entire human race except for me. I'm about done already with the frickin human race and its idiocy.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '.').. let's imagine civil unrest escalating and keeping in mind the slippery slope AgentR11 mentions, and then you get a McCarthyism style witch hunt in 5-10 years from now looking into peoples past to investigate their sympathies with subversive and protest movements, and you can see how the search can reach all the way back to even such innocuous forums as peakoil.com.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'S')ince 1927, conservative have warned about how they and the Christians are about to be massacred and enslaved by the liberals, because anyone who is a liberal is also a Stalinist or something. And since then, right wing regimes have put millions and milllions of people into mass graves to "save" their countries from the scourges of birth control, poetry, pacifism, and the free press.

[rangerone314]

I look at it as a wheel, not a continuum from left to right. When you go too far to the left, or too far to the right on the wheel you get statism/authoritarianism. Inbetween left and right (and directly opposite statism) you get true libertarianism.

[Cog]

My Republican friends think Libertarians are dope-smoking commies who want to gut our military. My Democrat friends think that Libertarians are free-market fascists who want to gut their social programs.

[IndigoMoon]

I remember something to this effect being posted a few years ago, and it was quickly dismissed as something in the tinfoil hat territory. It was about the same time the FEMA camp threads emerged, shortly after TARP & the bailouts. Then all the threads were put into an "Out of This World" subsection that doesn't even exist anymore. Seems we have come full circle.

[AgentR11]

Well, its one thing to have a FEMA camp that doesn't even look well suited to involuntary confinement; quite another to vote on legislation letting the military lock up and detain without trial, whoever the president feels like having locked up.

You know, its interesting that the parties claim to be adversaries, but when it comes to granting power to a president, even of the party opposite, if its a power that helps maintain the current system and their own personal comfort within it; no power is too much.

[IndigoMoon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'W')ell, its one thing to have a FEMA camp that doesn't even look well suited to involuntary confinement; quite another to vote on legislation letting the military lock up and detain without trial, whoever the president feels like having locked up.

You know, its interesting that the parties claim to be adversaries, but when it comes to granting power to a president, even of the party opposite, if its a power that helps maintain the current system and their own personal comfort within it; no power is too much.

[Pops]

I probably was one pointing and snickering at your headgear.

Sorry.

[IndigoMoon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I') probably was one pointing and snickering at your headgear.
Sorry.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'S')ometimes I wish a g-d plague would come through and wipe out the entire human race except for me. I'm about done already with the frickin human race and its idiocy.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'M')y Republican friends think Libertarians are dope-smoking commies who want to gut our military. My Democrat friends think that Libertarians are free-market fascists who want to gut their social programs.

[IndigoMoon]

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/entire-united-states-is-now-war-zone.html

And the beat goes on.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'M')y Republican friends think Libertarians are dope-smoking commies who want to gut our military. My Democrat friends think that Libertarians are free-market fascists who want to gut their social programs.

[rangerone314]

When does this steaming pile of poop arrive at Obama's desk?

[Cog]

My understanding is the House has to rectify its version with the Senate.

[AgentR11]

The word you are looking for is reconcile.

[Pops]

Some MSM attention,

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/20 ... -questions
http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehou ... 203?page=1
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/11/oba ... fense-bill
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... ense-bill/

[Cloud9]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/ ... lzhenitsyn