[peeker01]

If you are even the least bit skeptical about AGW, take a quick look at this site. Our current
hurricane and drought issues pale in comparison to past weather events.

Now, for those of you who want to discredit the credentials of this website, I'll save you
the trouble. Not much hard data prior to 1800, so the author relies on the casual printed
word from non-scientific sources. However, when someone says the Thames was frozen solid for 8 weeks in 1602, you have to give it some thought. Same goes for drought and famine. No
shortage of either.

So when someone wants to tell you that a one year drought in Texas is an indicator of end-times,
tell him about this website.

http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/clima ... climat.htm

[Umber]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'I')f you are even the least bit skeptical about AGW, take a quick look at this site. Our current
hurricane and drought issues pale in comparison to past weather events.

Now, for those of you who want to discredit the credentials of this website, I'll save you
the trouble. Not much hard data prior to 1800, so the author relies on the casual printed
word from non-scientific sources. However, when someone says the Thames was frozen solid for 8 weeks in 1602, you have to give it some thought. Same goes for drought and famine. No
shortage of either.

So when someone wants to tell you that a one year drought in Texas is an indicator of end-times,
tell him about this website.

http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/clima ... climat.htm

[peeker01]

You're welcome. I've just been reading it again, line by line. It's fun to imagine living in ancient
times with no computer or heating, just animal skins and a fire for warmth. Better than a
novel.

[nobodypanic]

and when was the last time the thames was frozen for 8 weeks? or just frozen period?

[peeker01]

Maybe next year, if that website is at all accurate. That's what is so compelling about this
historical record. 5 years of drought, followed by 2 of floods, then 7 years later, 5 feet of snow
and unspeakable cold. All before the discovery of hydrocarbons.

[PrestonSturges]

Britain is an island, so its weather is greatly influenced by wind and ocean current. UK weather is probably not a real good indicator of global temperatures.

[peeker01]

With France and the rest of Europe just a short distance away, I'm sure much of the data
can be extrapolated for interpretation. Even though Irene made landfall on Long Island,
it's pressure patterns, wind and rainfall had influence all the way into Canada and beyond.

[KingM]

Fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing. I'm a global warming agnostic, but stuff like this doesn't exactly make feel more confident. In a JIT world, a ten year period of cold, rainy summers and bitter winters in the northern latitudes could kill a billion people around the world.

[peeker01]

We are up against a cruel "mother nature". With proper assessment and preparation we will
persevere.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'W')ith France and the rest of Europe just a short distance away, I'm sure much of the data
can be extrapolated for interpretation. Even though Irene made landfall on Long Island,
it's pressure patterns, wind and rainfall had influence all the way into Canada and beyond.

[peeker01]

Hey Preston, if you don't appreciate the information, ignore it.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'H')ey Preston, if you don't appreciate the information, ignore it.

[dolanbaker]

It puts the "runaway global warming" and "mini ice age" threads into perspective, extreme weather events have and will always happen regardless of whether you believe in global warming or climate change or even if you believe we're aproaching an ice age.

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'B')ritain is an island, so its weather is greatly influenced by wind and ocean current. UK weather is probably not a real good indicator of global temperatures.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'B')ritain is an island, so its weather is greatly influenced by wind and ocean current. UK weather is probably not a real good indicator of global temperatures.

[peeker01]

If you will look to the top of this thread, you will see it is predicated on drought and storms, not
temperature. The British Isles suffered an amazing number of droughts and famines, in spite
of it's high latitude. Do you remember the Irish potato famine?

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'I')f you will look to the top of this thread, you will see it is predicated on drought and storms, not
temperature. The British Isles suffered an amazing number of droughts and famines, in spite
of it's high latitude. Do you remember the Irish potato famine?

[peeker01]

True, but it occurred during the Little Iceage.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'I')f you will look to the top of this thread, you will see it is predicated on drought and storms, not
temperature. The British Isles suffered an amazing number of droughts and famines, in spite
of it's high latitude. Do you remember the Irish potato famine?

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'T')rue, but it occurred during the Little Iceage.