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Unread postby NonToxic » Thu 26 May 2005, 14:16:02

I think I am posting in the right forum. Go to http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?setcp=b and search for Wood Burning Truck.

Anyone have any more info on this setup? Looks interesting but gives no info. It must be steam powered.
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Unread postby yooper » Thu 26 May 2005, 15:46:20

It is a wood gasifier, Mother Earth News sells plans for it. You need an older large engine that is not fuel injected and has a carb and a distributer.
You will get about half power from the motor and go about a mile per pound of wood.
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Unread postby Googolplex » Fri 27 May 2005, 03:19:57

Personally, Im much more interested in a stationary wood gas electric generator. Dealing with a wood gasifier on a moving vehical sounds like a real pain. :P

What the matter with an electric car?
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Unread postby Doly » Fri 27 May 2005, 04:41:57

The problem with an electric car is that it need electricity. Which may, or may not, be abundant in the future. Depends on how much of the electricity of your country is based on gas.
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Unread postby Googolplex » Fri 27 May 2005, 04:44:54

Well thats what the wood gas generator is for, isn't it? :P
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Unread postby ubercrap » Tue 07 Jun 2005, 23:44:18

I believe that wood gasification was another thing that was used in Europe during WWII in some places to run things like buses.
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Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 14 May 2008, 22:57:47

I was just chainsawing some wood, and I it started to rain and I came in and saw this crazy article.

Who needs tarsands when you've got firewood to run your car.

Yup. Just burn wood back in a stove back in the pickup bed, pipe the fumes directly into the carborator (wood-stove fuel injection) and your engine will run on the fumes from the stove.

woodstove powered pickup truck

America and Canada are the Saudi Arabia of firewood!
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby mercurygirl » Wed 14 May 2008, 22:59:43

Sorry, I think peak firewood was a long time ago.
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 14 May 2008, 23:02:36

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Pimp my ride, dude!!!!

I'd like 10 gallons of firewood and a six pack. Oh, and throw in a pack of matches, please.


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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Novus » Thu 15 May 2008, 00:57:19

This smells like a hoax to me. The engine up front looks like a regular gasoline engine. I really doubt it runs on wood chips alone.
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 15 May 2008, 01:11:48

I don't think its a hoax.

They used the same technology in WWII and that wasn't a hoax.

I just did a google and saw a pic of a wood-powered tractor plowing a field. Apparently you can burn wood, take off the gas, pipe it directly into the carberator, and run the engine. In fact, here is a manual telling how to pimp your ride into a wood-powered car.

Wood gas

Wood gas as motor fuel

The Gengas Page -- Fuel gas, produced by the reduction of coal and peat, was used for heating as early as 1840 in Europe, and by 1884 it had been adapted to fuel engines in England. Petroleum shortages during World War II led to widespread gas generator applications in the transportation industries of Western Europe. (Charcoal-burning taxis, a related application, were still common in Korea as late as 1970.) This report attempts to preserve the knowledge about wood gasification as put into practical use during World War II. Detailed, step-by-step procedures are presented in this report for constructing a simplified version of the World War II, Imbert wood gas generator. Full text online.
http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/index.shtml
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 15 May 2008, 01:14:04

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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Fredrik » Thu 15 May 2008, 08:00:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'I') really doubt it runs on wood chips alone.


Some people have driven hundreds of miles on nothing but wood chips or peat.

As long as you've got a combustible material, converting the heat into motion is just an engineering problem (and a solved one at that, although the design could probably be improved with further engineering).

Of course wood-burning engines won't save business-as-usual motoring, even in forest-rich regions, but it'll keep at least some trucks and buses in traffic. And, perhaps most importantly, tractors, as in the picture above.
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Cloud9 » Thu 15 May 2008, 08:07:58

Mother Earth News did a story on this process back in the 70's.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Modern-H ... Truck.aspx
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 15 May 2008, 10:52:56

Burning wood for power has to be converted to steam (called boiler) in order to operate pistons. Fake............
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby davep » Thu 15 May 2008, 11:33:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'B')urning wood for power has to be converted to steam (called boiler) in order to operate pistons. Fake............


Err, no. The gases of the wood are not burned and can be used in the internal combustion engine. The power level is (from memory) about 40% of what you'd get from gasoline.

It can be used for cooking too:

[web]http://journeytoforever.org/at_woodfire.html#woodgasstoves[/web]
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby oowolf » Thu 15 May 2008, 19:38:58

Millions of these have been built:
http://www.windward.org/notes/notes63/wal63_b.htm
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 15 May 2008, 21:23:35

Here is a truck that runs on coffee-grounds-gas. It sounds like the same principle as the wood-gas truck, but the gas is liberated by burning coffee grounds.

truck runs on burning coffee grounds

Again, they don't seem to modify the engine at all.....they are just piping the gas liberated by combustion directly to the carborateur.
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 15 May 2008, 21:26:24

"The reason a wood gas generator can power cars and trucks is that the internal combustion engine is actually powered by vapor, not liquid. In a gasoline-powered engine, gasoline is vaporized before entering the combustion chamber. Diesel is a little different; it’s sprayed into the combustion chamber as fine droplets which burn as they vaporize. Either way, if you can put a clean combustible vapor into the engine, you’ve got power....

Gasifying a solid material partially burns it, which preserves some of the energy that would normally be wasted in the gas (otherwise there wouldn’t be anything left for the engine to burn). The gas contains a mixture of carbon monoxide (CO), hydrogen (H2), carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N), and a small amount of methane (CH4)."

---from the link in the prior post.
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Re: Pimp my ride: truck powered by a woodstove

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Fri 16 May 2008, 03:52:31

You can run a car off methane too. If you take a tank and put the hose right in the carb you can run your car, no fuss, no muss. I am going to try building one of these puppies.

This year I'm only experimenting on building a stove till I get the concept right etc. Mostly because I am getting a ceramic top stove that you can't pressure can on and need something to fit the bill. I am going to see if my dad and I can't adapt it to work on the barbecue too.
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