[Cog]

Your country needs sterilizations and condoms a lot more than it does bio-diesel. Cargo cult is irrational thinking when power down is coming at you.

[stephankrasner]

I am concerned. Saddened actually, that we cannot use such a miraculous, and useful resource with more care and conservation. As a soon to be debt-free, college educated 27 year old working on a co-op, I will not be affected as much as a 40 year old office worker with a family of five, a mountain of debt, and completely attached to the system.

I don't think there is a chance in the world of progressive socio-economic change coming from the top down. The only chance we have is change by the power of perception. Change will come in the form of small groups of people who have little or no debt, access to start-up capital and are willing to let go of, or severely cut back the all consuming unsustainable lifestyles we live today. I see these types of communities as reproducible, and something that will be a staple of the center of suburban and urban cities alike for it's cheap food and co-op capacity, as well as a center of trade.

I don't want there to be a crash, but I do want people to feel the pressure and get the right culprit so they can correctly direct their anger and frustration to more productive ends.

[peeker01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')our country needs sterilizations and condoms a lot more than it does bio-diesel. Cargo cult is irrational thinking when power down is coming at you.

[Bill Hicks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'T')his is a good exercise for our readers. Take a good look at India and Africa, and tell me you want
to live that lifestyle. Sure we could use less, but power down? To what level?

[peeker01]

I bet you are wrong Bill. Remember all the dire predictions Dr. Paul Ehrlich made back in the 60's? You are starting to sound like him. He sold alot of books, but he was very wrong about the future.

[peeker01]

Is that how you characterize Ehrlich's near total failure as a prognosticator of the future?

From Wiki....
"One frequent criticism focuses on Ehrlich's allegedly alarmist tone and sensational statements. Ehrlich has made a number of statements or "predictions" in a variety of settings that have turned out to be false. Ronald Bailey of Reason Magazine has called him an "irrepressible doomster ... who, as far as I can tell, has never been right in any of his forecasts of imminent catastrophe."[18] On the first Earth Day in 1970, he warned that "[i]n ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish."[18] In a 1971 speech, he predicted that: "By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people ... If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000."[18] When this scenario did not come to pass, he responded that "When you predict the future, you get things wrong. How wrong is another question. I would have lost if I had had taken the bet. However, if you look closely at England, what can I tell you? They're having all kinds of problems, just like everybody else."[18] Ehrlich wrote in The Population Bomb that, "India couldn't possibly feed two hundred million more people by 1980."[13

[Bill Hicks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'I') bet you are wrong Bill. Remember all the dire predictions Dr. Paul Ehrlich made back in the 60's? You are starting to sound like him. He sold alot of books, but he was very wrong about the future.

[peeker01]

I give up.....so does google.....what is an mzb? Marion Zimmer Brown, Mission Bay VORTAC??????

[Bill Hicks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'I') give up.....so does google.....what is an mzb? Marion Zimmer Brown, Mission Bay VORTAC??????

[peeker01]

Sorry Bill, never heard of MZB. Does that make me a bad peaker?

[Bill Hicks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', 'S')orry Bill, never heard of MZB. Does that make me a bad peaker?

[peeker01]

Gosh Bill, so everything I read here is the "truth"? I shouldn't post weather charts or stock
market charts or charts depicting global temperature decreases, because there is no need?

[peeker01]

Ehrlick sold his reputation for a few books

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')our country needs sterilizations and condoms a lot more than it does bio-diesel. Cargo cult is irrational thinking when power down is coming at you.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', '
')This is a good exercise for our readers. Take a good look at India and Africa, and tell me you want to live that lifestyle. Sure we could use less, but power down? To what level?

[peeker01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peeker01', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')our country needs sterilizations and condoms a lot more than it does bio-diesel. Cargo cult is irrational thinking when power down is coming at you.

[Sixstrings]

Peeker, Asia is a continent. In includes China, India, and a lot of other places. India is referred to as "the Indian subcontinent" but it's still on the continent of Asia.

As for spam..

I can smell it a mile away. If he's not a spammer then he'll come back and engage in a discussion. I'll be happy to apologize.

Even so, I don't think posters are allowed to promote their internet businesses on here.

[peeker01]

I still don't think he is a spammer