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Head of General Motors want's gas tax raised $1
Re: Head of GM want's gas tax raised $1
by vision-master » Thu 16 Jun 2011, 08:24:12
until you find out how expensive medical insurance is over here.....
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Re: Head of GM want's gas tax raised $1
by SpockLives » Thu 16 Jun 2011, 09:06:24
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ')The fact that you think a twenty mile one way commute is reasonable shows that even you have yet to grasp the full implications of peak oil.
Full implications? We've been living with the full implications of peak oil ever since it happened. As far as a twenty mile commute being reasonable, I didn't say it was reasonable, only that most Americans have that much of a commute, or less. I am sure some rich folks won't mind putting $10/gal in a monster truck to run their 40 miles round trip to work, but others will be forced into mass transit, EVs, bicycles for the in shape, walking is about the only option out of range for a 40 mile round trip to work. Even a scooter getting 100mpg can do 20 miles within an hour however, so Joe Sixpack will have that option available to them even in a high priced environment.
But these are all options for the urban and suburban, the rural dwellers are probably already discovering the horrors of peak oil in their own way.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Anything beyond a two mile walking distance will soon be out of the question except in level terrain ,warm climate areas, that are cyclable year round .
Not a chance. Anyone not suffering from the American diseases of obesity or laziness can do 2 miles, once upon a time I used to do 8. And fortunately obesity and laziness can be cured, hell, you could argue that peak oil will be a great thing for American health, although that doesn't appear to be the most popular solution applied by citizens to date.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Considering that the politicians can't even see the need for any gas tax increase I expect that your dollar a year rate is impossible and would have negative impacts beyond it's worth.
Well, we have to advocate something. Peak oil just can't be about all the bitching and whining about zombies or fantasies of agri-utopia, maybe its time we got some of our own people elected, showing up at town halls, circulating petitions, etc etc.
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Re: Head of GM want's gas tax raised $1
by SpockLives » Thu 16 Jun 2011, 09:09:15
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'I') worry about a slow ramp up doing the frog boiling thing; people will try to stretch just a little further, each time it ticks up; but by the time they capitulate, the damage to their finances has already been done;
Nah, squeezing more efficiency into every family budget isn't a "damage" thing, you get it all back in the form of increased savings when prices relax, as they did in 2008, and have been recently. Then you look at your budget and say, "da-yam! Where did this extra cash come from! Whoo-Hoo! lets go to the mall!" and BAU marches on.
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