[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
') although coffee did go up another 11% couple days ago.. one of the big brands up a whopping 50%.

[pedalling_faster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')hen is the last time you really read a worthwhile post on this site or any other peak oil related site? Let's include the Oil Drum and JMG's Archdruid site as well.
...
Time to move on?

[sparky]

.
One more insight as far as possible forecast goes

Most U.S. citizens think of alternative society as a mix of Mad Max and the old West
with a bit of "the little house on the prairie "

get real ,
the main chance is rather made in U.S. A. North Korea
work camps , great leader , people justice and people Army

No government will ever give up its power ...ever
they are ready to any sacrifice for their constituents to bear so they remain in power
state of emergency , martial law , military necessity .. whatever

The state will die AFTER the last potential taxpayer has breathed its last

[Revi]

I was thinking that most media these days is like the loudspeaker on the Titanic. The real decisions were being made in the pilot house and it was to get the rich off in the lifeboats and let the ship sink. That was never broadcast to the public. They just waited on the tilting decks for the rescue that never came. So it is nowadays. I think this is one of the few places where we can get a different viewpoint. It isn't a political viewpoint, nor is it a religious one, so it may be as close to objective reality as we can find.

That's why I stay on Peak Oil.com. It is one of the few places I can stand. I like my other websites, such as Maple Trader which deal with one aspect of my life, but this site is the best one to talk about the world through the peak oil perspective.

[SpockLives]

This is one of the most fascinating threads I have found since joining this website.

Effectively, it appears to boil down to, "We now know everything, there is nothing new left to examine on the topic, and therefore will relax, secure in our certitude."

I myself like Legrand's take on it better, "The more I live, the more I learn. The more I learn, the more I realize, the less I know".

Certainly peak oil hasn't stood still over the past half decade, and certainly I react differently to it now than I did back then (USA Today front page article is where my interests start).

[efarmer]

pedalling_faster, please keep us informed of the chicken breeding experiment. Will it yield chicken
that tastes like salmon? I am working on Asian Carp here on the Missouri River, if I can get them to mate with catfish, I am going to have big ass catfish that jump right in your boat every time you gun the motor in the sloughs. If that works I am going to see if I can come up with a cross between Pops and Pstarr so I can surround myself with pragmatic doomer optimists.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SpockLives', 'E')ffectively, it appears to boil down to, "We now know everything, there is nothing new left to examine on the topic, and therefore will relax, secure in our certitude."

I myself like Legrand's take on it better, "The more I live, the more I learn. The more I learn, the more I realize, the less I know".

[Asterisk]

Depends on how up you wish to be on current events regarding PO, GW, Arctic Melt, or whatever else your interests may be (politics, geoengineering, radiation, etc. etc. etc.)

I find that there is no "news" site that can provide the degree of insight you can get on this board.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SpockLives', 'E')ffectively, it appears to boil down to, "We now know everything, there is nothing new left to examine on the topic, and therefore will relax, secure in our certitude."

I myself like Legrand's take on it better, "The more I live, the more I learn. The more I learn, the more I realize, the less I know".

[Cid_Yama]

There are always new insights to be gleaned.

I started out on Oil Drum long before coming here. I established my peakoil doomstead in NorthTexas. I set the estate up like a bunker so it can survive 20 years without outside input.

While still at Oil Drum I read an article in Energy Bulletin about the Methane Time Bomb.

Then it was just a future possibility, then it started looking more like a probability, then later a far off certainty.

That was when I decided to relocate my doomstead to northern Saskatchewan. There I gleaned a new insight, there is no heavy construction equipment or laborers unless you bring them in yourself. I wasn't grasping the realities of the frontier.

By this time the knowledge base concerning the methane had expanded and circumstances were changing. Methane was already releasing, then increasing and accelerating. The time frame had shrunk. There was no longer any point in leaving North Texas. We decided we would meet our end here.

Just a few years and we were older and there was no point in changing horses.

Then Fukushima happened. It had never occured to me what would happen to nuclear power stations after the collapse. I didn't even know where the closest nuclear plant was.

Turns out we are downwind from Comanche Peak. Not immediately downwind, but if you know anything about North Texas, the area between Comanche Peak and where I am located is where Thunderstorm systems are born. We get the first rain here.

Definitely a new insight. But like I said we are old and ready to meet our end here when it comes.

Just making the point, it's the unknown unkowns. The things you don't know you don't know.

And circumstances are rapidly changing. This website is where you find out about the things you didn't know you didn't know.

[SpockLives]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')I'd suggest you reread the thread. The tilt of most posts was the opposite of "We know everything" - including Ibon's "I think it is really hard for a lot of folks to accept the path forward being shrouded in mist."

It's pretty obvious you're not "Short" on preconceived certitudes of your own, Legrand or no.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')o this website is more of an entertaining place where you come on coffee breaks to argue about what year Peak Oil occurred, or to marvel at Mos' 7-post-a-day thread rate ...

[SpockLives]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '
')And circumstances are rapidly changing. This website is where you find out about the things you didn't know you didn't know.

[pedalling_faster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', 'p')edalling_faster, please keep us informed of the chicken breeding experiment. Will it yield chicken
that tastes like salmon? I am working on Asian Carp here on the Missouri River, if I can get them to mate with catfish, I am going to have big ass catfish that jump right in your boat every time you gun the motor in the sloughs. If that works I am going to see if I can come up with a cross between Pops and Pstarr so I can surround myself with pragmatic doomer optimists.

[Expatriot]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')hen is the last time you really read a worthwhile post on this site or any other peak oil related site?

Time to move on?

[vision-master]

The E-cat is gonna change everything, where ya been, posting on taht teabagger 4um or what?

[efarmer]

Sounds like an audacious plan pedalling_faster! Don't sweat the hens in your Motel 6 room,
just sign in as the Easter Bunny and they will understand that your job requires you to
be intimate with chickens.

E :~)

[dorlomin]

"Punctuated equilibrium" there is a good phrase to describe how we gain insights into the post peak world. Short periods of rapid development followed by longer periods of stasis. We are sort of muddling around in a post Lehman\ bailout period where not a lot has happened by comparison. We await either the slow death of the QEII\QEIII or the next grey\ black swan. Marking time getting on with our lives and accumulating information at a slower rate. Fukushima and Deepwater Horizon obviously stand out as major events in the energy world but the effects of both are yet to be felt throughout society.