[timmac]

Supreme Master Ching Hai's sounds like a real fruit loop, anyone that calls them self a Supreme Master has a real complex problem.

[Pretorian]

And anybody who calls somebody else " Supreme Master" has twice as much.

[billg]

updated: 219 locations worldwide

[billg]

yes, we are talking fast food chains and any way you slice it there are problems with fast food chains...

but, putting all that aside...who do you trust more...

this King...


or this Supreme Master???

[Pretorian]

Is it possible to grow mushrooms like yours indoors? Is there any legal minimum of it that you can mail as a sample? Because I'm sold man, I'll buy whatever you are selling.

[Narz]

Hiya Bill. Just came from Sirius, it wasn't the same without you.

Anyway, ignore the trolls (though "Supreme Master" is a bit pretentious), I think healthy fast-food is a great step forward. Driving on the highway on the way back & seeing "Food - Burger King, McDonalds, Wendys" is depressing. The rainforests are being cut to feed the bloated animals that feed the bloated populace when alternatives could be just a cultural shift away.

[billg]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')s it possible to grow mushrooms like yours indoors? Is there any legal minimum of it that you can mail as a sample? Because I'm sold man, I'll buy whatever you are selling.

[NewGreenGeneration]

If you do not know her, you will never understand why she deserves the title of "Supreme Master". She opens my eyes to all the wonders surrounding us. She shows us how much blessings we have and how rich we are. She taught us how to listen to our animal friends. Thus, we can learn love and noble qualities to serve others. She is the one let me understand what true "love" means. She is my role model. She is my Hero.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NewGreenGeneration', 'I')f you do not know her, you will never understand why she deserves the title of "Supreme Master". She opens my eyes to all the wonders surrounding us. She shows us how much blessings we have and how rich we are. She taught us how to listen to our animal friends. Thus, we can learn love and noble qualities to serve others. She is the one let me understand what true "love" means. She is my role model. She is my Hero.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billg', 'y')es, we are talking fast food chains and any way you slice it there are problems with fast food chains...

but, putting all that aside...who do you trust more...

this King...


or this Supreme Master???

[crude_intentions]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', ' ')No human deserves the title Supreme Master

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NewGreenGeneration', 'I')f you do not know her, you will never understand why she deserves the title of "Supreme Master"....She taught us how to listen to our animal friends.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'S')upreme Master Ching Hai's sounds like a real fruit loop, anyone that calls them self a Supreme Master has a real complex problem.

[dohboi]

Well, in the final death rattle of complex life on the planet, I'm sure all sorts of cults will crop up. This is, of course, far more benign than the cult of endless growth (aka neoclassical economics) that has savaged the planet, and continues to kick her in the teeth with steel-toed jackboots as she Cheyne-Stokes here way into oblivion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDebRCRVN08

[billg]

hunting wild animals? it may be a local response to your local conditions, but it is not relevant to dealing with global realities.

here is the Crisis 2 Peace syllabus presented by Ching Hai...there is some interesting stuff here like encouraging our leaders to outlaw the eating of meat. of course, this is a very radical departure from our conditioned point of view, but seems like a more sensible proposal than some of the other ideas i've heard (i.e. the genocidal fantasies that many PO members have)

http://www.crisis2peace.org/

i'm inclined to agree that the "Supreme Master" bit is a diversion and rather off-putting, but that doesn't mean that Ching Hai's message should be entirely ignored.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billg', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')s it possible to grow mushrooms like yours indoors? Is there any legal minimum of it that you can mail as a sample? Because I'm sold man, I'll buy whatever you are selling.

[Narz]

He's had that nick for 5-years.

And a large portion of "vegan" food grown around the world goes to feed lifestock. So if you have a problem with all the agricultural land devoted to grains you DEFINITELY shouldn't eat animals because they eat more of it than people do (in the States anyway).

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', ':')lol: He's had that nick for 5-years.

And a large portion of "vegan" food grown around the world goes to feed lifestock. So if you have a problem with all the agricultural land devoted to grains you DEFINITELY shouldn't eat animals because they eat more of it than people do (in the States anyway).

[Narz]

I don't agree that veganism is the sponsorship of mass-murder, no.

You don't seem to be able to wrap your head around the fact that the animals you eat require far more land (water, oil, resources, etc.) than vegetables/grains & that in the developed world animals (IIRC) eat MORE grains than humans.

As for farmland displacing wild animals. Yes, this is obvious. Until you manage to live in the woods eating old wild food I don't think you deserve the soapbox you're standing on though.

[dohboi]

Just curious, pret, do you really want all 7 billion of us to go out and shoot your deer? There won't be much left for you to hang up in the trees after all the rest of us locusts are done picking their bones.

It takes tens to hundreds of acres of uncultivated land to support one human (depending on the habitat), but only a few acres (if that, again, depending on the fertility of the land) of cultivated land, especially if you are only eating grains, beans and greens.

So if you want everyone in the world to join you on your deer hunt, be ready to see the world quickly denuded of deer (and every other wild animal, as is already happening).

If you don't want to see that, then why wouldn't you want to promote more efficient use of farmed calories by encouraging people to eat more grains and beans rather than having the great majority of the originally available calories be wasted in the conversion to cow, pig, or chicken flesh?