[oowolf]

When the USD crashes and the Fed can no longer bribe the individual states into submitting to Federal control. Judging from the considerable number of "nullification" bills currently before the Montana Legislature, this potential situation is on the minds of many of our citizens. I know there was recently a bill in South Carolina to create a state currency.

[Pops]

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[Oakley]

According to the authors of "The Fourth Turning", recurring patterns in history indicate that the current crisis will resolve itself in violence sometime between now and 2020. This violence could be civil war (revolution) or WWIII or a combination of both.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest- ... revolution

I think there is a revolution point that is reached when the pain of going along with the plunder and control of a current government is significantly greater than the pain that comes from fighting back.

As to who will be fighting whom, I think there will be three camps. One will be those who currently control the government and benefit from it. Secondly will be those currently out of power who want more government to take care of them. Thirdly will be those who want little or no government. The idea that people will be fighting against the evil bankers or evil military is I believe a misconception. Just like in the civil war of 1861, it will be neighbor killing neighbor and even brother killing brother.

I think the desperation people will feel in the struggle to survive the energy related economic contraction will intensify the brutality of the coming conflict. The 1776 and 1861 civil conflicts were fought in better economic times where economic survival was not a major issue.