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Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 14 Feb 2011, 22:48:48

Having worked with frail aged people I know there is damn good reason workers in aged care are forced to sign contracts forbidding acceptance of any kind of gift without approval of the employer.
It is rediculously easy to manipulate people in early stage dementia who have landed in a nursing home.
Whoever spends the most time with them carries the most sway. Fair or unfair, that's the way it is.
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby threadbare » Thu 24 Feb 2011, 00:00:03

SixStrings--I am so sorry to hear about your grandfather's will. It seems odd that the sole beneficiary, your uncle, is also the executor? My mother just died and there hasn't been any difficulty. It's pretty straightforward. Nobody was forgotten, no hard feelings. Everything is cool. All of us kids are very lucky.

If you find out you have a strong case, you might approach your uncle about a mediated settlement that excludes huge payouts to lawyers. Nobody deserves to be forgotten, in the way you have. Perhaps your gramps was a bit of a psycho. They can fool you, these old codgers, gumming their peas, afghan quilts warming their laps. Most people mellow with age but some just become more rigidly awful. By the time they die, their personalities have become as calcified as their arteries.
All the best to you. Make the goof roll over in his grave! Hell no, make him break dance!
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby threadbare » Thu 24 Feb 2011, 00:03:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'H')aving worked with frail aged people I know there is damn good reason workers in aged care are forced to sign contracts forbidding acceptance of any kind of gift without approval of the employer.
It is rediculously easy to manipulate people in early stage dementia who have landed in a nursing home.
Whoever spends the most time with them carries the most sway. Fair or unfair, that's the way it is.


Guess I was kind of hard on Gramps. This is very true, by the way. The uncle could be almost the sole source of this misery. It's actually a more plausible scenario. Sorry Grampa!
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby scas » Thu 24 Feb 2011, 10:45:28

I got cut out of the parents will when I pulled the atheist card. Apparently its religious law? I don't care though, religious people are irrational.
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 25 Feb 2011, 16:44:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbare', 'S')ixStrings--I am so sorry to hear about your grandfather's will. It seems odd that the sole beneficiary, your uncle, is also the executor? My mother just died and there hasn't been any difficulty. It's pretty straightforward. Nobody was forgotten, no hard feelings. Everything is cool. All of us kids are very lucky.


Well, I'm over it.

Complaining about this is tacky, I realize. I was only bothered because there was enough to go around and do the right thing.

Then there's the rejection factor. Uncle's letter made it more than clear that's what this is, rejection as family. I actually appreciate his honesty. He could have smoothed it over and just said these were his dad's wishes, or said something like he was very close to him so this is what his dad wanted. But nope, he confirmed that it means what I thought it did and so there's closure there, that helps.

My brother has made some amends. Uncle is fixing the house up to sell it and gave my brother some mementos. My sister is getting one of Grandpa's bibles. God bless him but Grandpa was tight.. funny story, he always kept like five bibles around the house. My sister once asked if she could have one of the family bibles for her own home. He said no. So that gives you an idea how things were with him, he wouldn't even part with a bible. So now she gets that same bible he didn't want to give her fifteen years ago.

So anyhow my brother did get permission to get one of my grandmother's afghan quilts for me. It's been in the closet since she made it in the early 70's, looks brand new. I'm not saying peep about anything at this point, but personally I don't even feel like I want it now.

Bottom line.. my posts in this thread are tacky, speaking ill of the deceased is very tacky, and of course nobody should *expect* to get anything from anybody anyway. All I can say is that a lot of emotions come up at a time like this. Long running family issues, it's complicated.

One thing I can feel very good about is that I never asked my grandfather for anything. When I spent time with him he never had to worry about that. When I'd cook for him, he was very grateful -- I'm glad I made the trips up there as an adult, otherwise I wouldn't have those memories.
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 25 Feb 2011, 17:09:27

6, don't feel bad, before my dad died he put the cabin ($250,000 vaule in today's market) into the youngest brothers name and left the other 4 of us out. Not only that, but the younger brother got everything up there too. On top of that he wuzn't suppose to get any other funds like t-bonds or cd's. Well mum changed that, so he got a cut from that too. The 4 of us are trying to sell her condo now and if's were lucky we may get about $15,000 each. On top of it, the younger brother will most likey die within a couple of years from being totaly overweight and drinking like a fish for decades. :lol:

Guess who got to take care of mum - me. :lol: The brother wuz busy getting hammered everyday.

Oh I forgot, he put a bunch of money into the place and then went broke. Now a friend of his bailed him out and is half owner. So, it's gonna be gone......... :cry:
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby Queaks » Fri 25 Feb 2011, 17:59:49

[As a moral question, I wonder if I'm wrong to feel cheated? What I'm wondering is how most families handle this when there's a decent sized estate -- if one of the two sons pass before the elderly parent, is it common that everything is left to the surviving son even though if my father hadn't passed then 1/3 of his half would have eventually passed to me.]

Six, I am a new member, but I have seen your posts for the past few years as I read the site . Sorry for your loss and feelings of being cheated. It could be more simple however, rather than a "cut out".

I lost my father several years ago at 84 (good for our family). He left everything to us siblings equally. However, it was even in the will that should one child pre-decease the others his/her portion was to be split with the other kids, not passed on to their children. I even remember talking about it with Dad a decade or so earlier, who remarked that each of his kids were loved , as were the grand(and great) kids, but that he felt the distribution should only go to children, not grandchildren. That it was up to us as "kids" to take care of our own rather than him.

So maybe your grandfather was just "oldschool" and only believed that things should pass to his kids, not to grandkids, as my father believed? In any case, sorry for your loss.
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 25 Feb 2011, 23:46:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Queaks', 'S')orry for your loss and feelings of being cheated.


God that sounds tacky, doesn't it. I wasn't "cheated," this is not my money. It's just that it's a sizable estate, I think we should have been included, I think that would have been the right thing to do.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')owever, it was even in the will that should one child pre-decease the others his/her portion was to be split with the other kids, not passed on to their children.


The letter from my uncle confirmed this is personal. But your point still stands, my mother's will is that way with nothing for grandchildren. But in her case it's just a house -- I feel like it's a different matter with a larger estate.

Anyhow I really am over it, and talking about money so much makes it sound like I didn't care about the man which isn't true at all. I have good memories of time spent with my grandfather, money can't buy those and lack of it doesn't take them away.

To divert this thread off me personally.. I think a good lesson here is that families should be clear about these things ahead of time. In my case that's my fault.. I wondered about this after my father passed but I didn't want to come out and ask -- I should have.
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Re: Have any of you ever been cut out of a will?

Unread postby Ayoob » Sat 26 Feb 2011, 14:07:30

Make your own damn money you bunch of girls, and decide who you will give what you want.

"Oh, I deserve to be an heiress" indeed.
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