[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', 'T')o be a true AI wouldn't the AI need to be given the freedom to choose whether it is "good" or "evil"?

[kiwichick]

sixstrings;"eliminates oodles of jobs"

fed considers 6.7% unemployment the new normal (in the US)

compared to previous normal of 5%

in the 1960's in New Zealand the then Prime Minister kept a list
of the unemployed in his desk

@ one stage the list had 6 names on it

the population of NZ was approx 2.5 million at the time

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', 'T')o be a true AI wouldn't the AI need to be given the freedom to choose whether it is "good" or "evil"?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')Good and evil are practical constructs (though not necessarily logical) born of the individual will to live.

[vaseline2008]

Has anyone been following the TV Show Jeopardy with IBM's Watson computer playing along? Interesting times indeed.

As for the good and evil argument, perhaps I opened up a can of worms, but however in nature all species are competitive and have the desire to be the dominant species. Interestingly enough, it seems that money has also taken that path in a capitalistic system where money seems to know nothing but to make more of itself.

In my mind if an AI were created with competition built in...then I don't see how we won't end up like "The Matrix".

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', ' ')in nature all species are competitive and have the desire to be the dominant species.

[TheDude]

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[vaseline2008]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', ' ')in nature all species are competitive and have the desire to be the dominant species.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', ' ')in nature all species are competitive and have the desire to be the dominant species.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Watson Supercomputer Terminates Humans in First Jeopardy Round

IBM supercomputer Watson closed the pod-bay doors on its human competition Tuesday night in the first round of a two-game Jeopardy match designed to showcase the latest advances in artificial intelligence. The contest concludes Wednesday.

By the end of the Tuesday’s shellacking, Jeopardy’s greatest champions, Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter, were sporting decidedly sour looks.

Watson had a near-miss at the end of the game, when it incorrectly answered the Final Jeopardy clue, but when the dust settled, the supercomputer had earned $35,734, blowing out Rutter and Jennings, who had earned $10,400 and $4800, respectively.

That final missed clue puzzled IBM scientists. The category was US Cities, and the clue was: “Its largest airport was named for a World War II hero; its second largest, for a World War II battle.”

Rutter and Jennings both correctly wrote “What is Chicago?” for O’Hare and Midway, but Watson’s response was a baffling “What is Toronto???” complete with the additional question marks.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/watson-game-one

[basil_hayden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Watson Supercomputer Terminates Humans in First Jeopardy Round

IBM supercomputer Watson closed the pod-bay doors on its human competition Tuesday night in the first round of a two-game Jeopardy match designed to showcase the latest advances in artificial intelligence. The contest concludes Wednesday.

By the end of the Tuesday’s shellacking, Jeopardy’s greatest champions, Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter, were sporting decidedly sour looks.

Watson had a near-miss at the end of the game, when it incorrectly answered the Final Jeopardy clue, but when the dust settled, the supercomputer had earned $35,734, blowing out Rutter and Jennings, who had earned $10,400 and $4800, respectively.

That final missed clue puzzled IBM scientists. The category was US Cities, and the clue was: “Its largest airport was named for a World War II hero; its second largest, for a World War II battle.”

Rutter and Jennings both correctly wrote “What is Chicago?” for O’Hare and Midway, but Watson’s response was a baffling “What is Toronto???” complete with the additional question marks.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/watson-game-one

[vision-master]

It's beyond yer reptilian brain.........

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'B')ut how could a computer, or Watson if it's not a true computer, "forget" the category or make a simple "human" mistake? The first thing Watson should have registered is that the answer had to be a US city, not a Canadian one.

Can someone smarter than me explain how a computer can make this kind of mistake, or forget what category it was working with?

...Suddenly I'm not so worried about the Skynet scenario. Maybe Watson belongs on one of those Japanese game shows and not Jeopardy?

[basil_hayden]

So Carl, are you saying that Watson coughed out an incorrect answer on purpose?

I can understand an incomplete database (human error) but not the logic of knowingly providing a wrong answer. Obviously the IBMers do not understand either according the articles posted above (it must be their reptilian brain, right vomit-master?)

[basil_hayden]

Woops, doubla...

[vision-master]

No, yours..

See that little red area.

That's you.

[basil_hayden]

At least mine works, maybe you have this problem instead...

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/12/chase-britton-boy-without-a-cerebellum-baffles-doctors/

I wonder if you could get on Special Olympics Jeopardy?
Prolly not, they have standards you can't meet.

[Sixstrings]

Ok I like Vision, but this off topic arguing in the middle of threads over the reptilian brain thing has gone too far.

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')
Actually Gas raises a good point. If you think about it, "humanity" is more than just neurons. We're hugely influenced by hormones as well -- from testosterone, estrogen, adrenaline, etc. How could that ever be modeled by an AI? And, who we are is really the product of many years of programming, so to speak. How could a computer ever tell a joke, if it's never felt pain?

To create real artificial human intelligence you'd have to model everything, hormones plus all the life experience of being human.

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NickyBoy', 'T')here are many reasons why a ‘pure’ Artificial Intelligence is unlikely to emerge in the format that the media/vocal supporters present, but the viewpoints of some of the luddites in this thread are significantly wide of the mark (“I do not understand this therefore it cannot happen”- Seriously? That’s the worst aspect of human ignorance being displayed right there.)

Adaptive expert systems designed to work at a very deep interactive level (potentially deeper than via our senses) with humans are far more likely to arrive first, as they are a simple extrapolation of modern technology that provide the majority of the benefits derived from an AI without the need to programmatically reproduce sentience.