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POLL: Are you a Peak Oil Doomer, Climate Doomer or both?

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Where do you stand?

I'm fully on board with Peak Oil Doom and Climate Change Doom
29
No votes
I'm a Peak Oil doomer but I'm not sure about climate change
15
No votes
I'm a Climate Change doomer, but not sure about Peak Oil Doom
2
No votes
I reject / have doubts about both Peak Oil and Climate Change Doom
8
No votes
 
Total votes : 54

Re: POLL: Are you a Peak Oil Doomer, Climate Doomer or both

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 15:50:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is an interesting question though.. if you had a friend who was all about climate change but said peak oil was bunk would you start dehumanizing him, calling him ignorant, stupid, a "science denier" and all that?


No, but they do tend to disregard 'Peak Oil' and focus on Global Warming as fact. :?
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Re: POLL: Are you a Peak Oil Doomer, Climate Doomer or both

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 16:07:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daniel_Plainview', '
')Yes, that surprises me too ... the science behind peak oil is black-and-white, the only issues being the time-frame and the severity of the consequences.


Well, then there is a difference between peak oil and peak oil DOOM. If shorty were still around he'd explain how peak oil is true, but a non-event. Thomas Friedman types who will explain to us how the stone age didn't end because of a lack of stone.
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Re: POLL: Are you a Peak Oil Doomer, Climate Doomer or both

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 16:14:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')This is an interesting question though.. if you had a friend who was all about climate change but said peak oil was bunk would you start dehumanizing him, calling him ignorant, stupid, a "science denier" and all that?


The deeper question is whether you'd have someone as a friend who is always in your face over peak oil being bunk. Despite the group-think, forums like this throw people together that you'd not necessarily want to hang out with in the meatspace.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')And for that matter, isn't the "scientific consensus" that peak oil is nothing to worry about?


The IEA (the closest analog to the IPCC) doesn't say it's "nothing to worry about". To us it's corny, but to most people, their projections are still worrisome.
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Re: POLL: Are you a Peak Oil Doomer, Climate Doomer or both

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 16:26:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daniel_Plainview', '
')Yes, that surprises me too ... the science behind peak oil is black-and-white, the only issues being the time-frame and the severity of the consequences.


Well, then there is a difference between peak oil and peak oil DOOM. If shorty were still around he'd explain how peak oil is true, but a non-event. Thomas Friedman types who will explain to us how the stone age didn't end because of a lack of stone.


Indeed, Shorty/Xenoplebe/DoomersUnite would dwell on -- more than anything -- the distinction between PO and PO DOOM, his position being that PO is a "non-event." That's like saying that you believe in gravity, but that falling from a 50-story building is a "non-event" ... Such an argument becomes tiresome after dozens of iterations and reiterations.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is an interesting question though.. if you had a friend who was all about climate change but said peak oil was bunk would you start dehumanizing him, calling him ignorant, stupid, a "science denier" and all that?


No, but they do tend to disregard 'Peak Oil' and focus on Global Warming as fact. :?


I'm curious how the AGW crowd can accept the science behind global warming, while rejecting the geological science behind peak oil.
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Re: POLL: Are you a Peak Oil Doomer, Climate Doomer or both

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 24 Jan 2011, 17:04:49

TV, newspapers, standard sheeple news......
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