[TheAntiDoomer]

http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-En ... 2-802.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') began seeing the handwriting on the wall about a year ago. It eventually caused me to cancel the module on peak oil in my College Writing class in the Fall of 2010. Advocates of peak oil apocalypse may be thinking that this sounds like the testament of a born-again Cornucopian who has seen the Light. No such luck.

This revelation was vouchsafed to me by Jonathan Fahey, via the Associated Press, in a recent article titled "US gas demand should fall for good after '06 peak." It contains a brilliantly-executed, if largely-unspoken, rhetorical strategy: Peak Oil is dead. Long live peak demand.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'h')ttp://www.opednews.com/articles/The-End-of-The-End--How-t-by-Mike-Bendzela-110102-802.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') began seeing the handwriting on the wall about a year ago. It eventually caused me to cancel the module on peak oil in my College Writing class in the Fall of 2010. Advocates of peak oil apocalypse may be thinking that this sounds like the testament of a born-again Cornucopian who has seen the Light. No such luck.

This revelation was vouchsafed to me by Jonathan Fahey, via the Associated Press, in a recent article titled "US gas demand should fall for good after '06 peak." It contains a brilliantly-executed, if largely-unspoken, rhetorical strategy: Peak Oil is dead. Long live peak demand.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'D')id you read that cr@p? Awful!

[thuja]

And while the cornies try to refute peak oil, the price keeps rising to near 100. In a world filled with limitless oil and humans ability to easily shift to an electric based planet, why would that ever happen?

[Lore]

When things start to get serious, there are always those that like to express it in a Baghdad Bob moment.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thuja', 'A')nd while the cornies try to refute peak oil, the price keeps rising to near 100.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'W')hen things start to get serious, there are always those that like to express it in a Baghdad Bob moment.

[mos6507]

OpEd News isn't news. It's just a website where anybody including you or me can dump their opinions.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'O')pEd News isn't news. It's just a website where anybody including you or me can dump their opinions.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')magine the energy that could be conserved if we simply clamped down on non-essential, recreational uses of gasoline and diesel. With the phenomenal success of the Internet and related technologies, we can now stay at home and do most everything we used to have to drive somewhere to do--shop, watch movies, work at our jobs, go to the bank, get a degree, etc. Imagine the possibilities.

[thuja]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thuja', 'A')nd while the cornies try to refute peak oil, the price keeps rising to near 100.

[thuja]

More reasons xeno is wrong...

"Dramatic spike in gas prices forecasted"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... orecasted/

"Rising oil prices poses another problem to recovery"
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Risi ... 931712.php

"Rising demand should push up crude oil prices in 2011"
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/96738/2 ... utlook.htm

Why is this happening? Peak Oil doesn't matter right?

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', ' ')revisionists are in full scramble trying to pretend they really didn't MEAN it would cause rationing, shortages or a dieoff and such

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thuja', 'A')nd while the cornies try to refute peak oil, the price keeps rising to near 100. In a world filled with limitless oil and humans ability to easily shift to an electric based planet, why would that ever happen?

[Pretorian]

i mean it could be a sort of a capital escape/injection just like the case with AG and AU

[thuja]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thuja', 'A')nd while the cornies try to refute peak oil, the price keeps rising to near 100. In a world filled with limitless oil and humans ability to easily shift to an electric based planet, why would that ever happen?

[thuja]

From the INternational Business Times...
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/96738/2 ... utlook.htm

"J.P. Morgan expects oil will cross $100 in the first half of 2011 and surpass $120 before the end of 2012.

"I believe the age of cheap oil is over," said Fatih Birol, chief economist for the International Energy Agency (IEA).

"There may be zigzags in the future according to the economy, this and that, but the general trend is we will see higher oil prices."

Of course the flip side of this is that the world cannot handle extremely high prices of energy and you may see another round of demand destruction and recessionary behavior due to Peak Oil. From the same article...

"The eternal irony is that if energy prices rise "too high" it would sap demand, which would then start declining again."

And on and on it goes. But this recession is teaching us one thing. Oil prices are remaining stubbornly high even in the face of a deeply damaging economic meltdown. That is a bad sign for a civilization based on cheap energy...

[Rod_Cloutier]

Was there ever a 'peak oil movement'? There have been various websites such as peakoil.com, the oil drum, life after the oil crash and so forth, but I don't recall a formal 'movement'. Where are the leaders, the agenda, the policy prescriptions, the membership cards, the million man marches to Capitol Hill?

I personally can't wrap my head around this new concept of peak demand? What is that really supposed to mean? Demand may be falling in America, but it is rising exponentially in countries like China and India. This growth in consumption will eventually overtake any decline in consumption in the US, and then overwhelm the world's productive capacity. You can't have 10% annual growth in consumption for 1/3 of the planet's population and not face a day of reckoning at some point.

As a Canadian, I think other non-Americans on this site will agree with me, that all this 'America first', or 'America-centric' attitudes seem bizarre? Why does it only matter what happens to the US? Peak demand, even if it is true in America, does not mean global consumption of fossil fuels is dropping. Also, climate change is a global issue, one cold winter for the US or the UK represents such a small area of the planet as to safely be ignored.

I also find that all the bigotry, the hate and blame game, the anti-Semitism, and so forth undermines all the principal claims. Is there really a formal movement?

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'W')as there ever a 'peak oil movement'? There have been various websites such as peakoil.com, the oil drum, life after the oil crash and so forth, but I don't recall a formal 'movement'. Where are the leaders, the agenda, the policy prescriptions, the membership cards, the million man marches to Capitol Hill?