[ian807]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'L')ooks like the Saudi's are the chief financiers of Terrorism. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_wikileaks ... Frc2RvYw--

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'L')ooks like the Saudi's are the chief financiers of Terrorism. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_wikileaks ... Frc2RvYw--

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ian807', 'O')ne regional power attempting to trick a superpower into defeating the other competing regional power.

Wow! That's so... expected. What else you got?

[Plantagenet]

First Obama goes to Saudi and bows then to Saudi King---Then the Obama administration leaks all the top secret diplomatic communications between Saudi and the US.

[vision-master]

Two O's in one sentence... Planted, ru a reptile?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'F')irst Obama goes to Saudi and bows then to Saudi King---Then the Obama administration leaks all the top secret diplomatic communications between Saudi and the US.

[Kristen]

Thank you wikileaks for pointing out the obvious; The U.S.A. is the most disillusioned, corrupt, and self infatuated empire in existence today. Besides these leaks already being an embarrassment, the president claiming Wikileaks is a danger to democracy (not to mention an endangerment of lives) is more ridiculous in itself. Are we so disenfranchised with reality to believe such claims?

I mean what's the worst that could happen? The world stops importing out culture akin to narcissism?

[SeaGypsy]

Looks like a strike on Iran is off the agenda for a little while at least.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'L')ooks like a strike on Iran is off the agenda for a little while at least.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'L')et's attempt for just a minute at least to expand the discussion beyond Obama.

How will the revelation that Saudi Arabia has been out to get Iran go down in the muslim world?

[SeaGypsy]

The releases can be found as they come through on Twitter.

[Keith_McClary]

Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton ordered U.S. diplomats to spy on UN leaders
By GERRI PEEV
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')illary Clinton ordered American officials to spy on high ranking UN diplomats, including British representatives.

Top secret cables revealed that Mrs Clinton, the Secretary of State, even ordered diplomats to obtain DNA data – including iris scans and fingerprints - as well as credit card and frequent flier numbers.

All permanent members of the security council – including Russia, China, France and the UK – were targeted by the secret spying mission, as well as the Secretary General of the UN, Ban Ki-Moon.

Secret spy mission: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered diplomats to spy on UN leaders, including Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon

Work schedules, email addresses, fax numbers, website identifiers and mobile numbers were also demanded by Washington.

The U.S. also wanted ‘biographic and biometric information on UN Security Council permanent representatives’.

The request could break international law and threatens to derail any trust between the U.S. and other powerful nations.

Requests for IT related information – such as details of passwords, personal encryption keys and network upgrades - could also raise suspicions that the U.S. was preparing to mount a hacking operation.
...
It is set to lead to international calls for Mrs Clinton to resign.
...
Mrs Clinton called for biometric details ‘on key UN officials, to include undersecretaries, heads of specialised agencies and their chief advisers, top SYG [secretary general] aides, heads of peace operations and political field missions, including force commanders’.
...
In what could discredit the U.S.’s role in the Middle East peace process, missions in Israel, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt were asked to gather biometric information ‘on key Palestinian Authority and Hamas leaders and representatives, to include the young guard inside Gaza, the West Bank’.
...
International treaties ban spying at the UN.

The 1946 UN convention on privileges and immunities states: ‘The premises of the United Nations shall be inviolable. The property and assets of the United Nations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, requisition, confiscation, expropriation and any other form of interference, whether by executive, administrative, judicial or legislative action.’

[SeaGypsy]

Some pretty tense negotiating terms going on here:

http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2010/1 ... spondence/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ikileaks and State Department correspondence
28 Nov 2010
Index on Censorship has obtained copies of correspondence between whistleblowing website Wikileaks and the US embassy in the United Kingdom, which took place between Friday and Sunday. They reveal Wikileaks editor in chiefs last-minute attempt to seek the cooperation of the United States government in redacting information from the latest controversial release of documents.

Mark Stephens of Finers Stephens Innocent, who represents Julian Assange in the UK, is a trustee of Index of Censorship.

26 November
Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks
to
US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman

Subject to the general objective of ensuring maximum disclosure of information in the public interest, WikiLeaks would be grateful for the United States Government to privately nominate any specific instances (record numbers or names) where it considers the publication of information would put individual persons at significant risk of harm that has not already been addressed. PDF

27 November
Harold Hongju Koh, Legal Adviser, United States Department of State
to
Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks

We will not engage in a negotiation regarding the further release or dissemination of illegally obtained U.S. Government classified materials. PDF

28 November
Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks
to
US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman

I understand that the United States government would prefer not to have the information that will be published in the public domain and is not in favour of openness. That said, either there is a risk or there is not. You have chosen to respond in a manner which leads me to conclude that the supposed risks are entirely fanciful and you are instead concerned to suppress evidence of human rights abuse and other criminal behaviour. PDF

[Livewire713]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'F')irst Obama goes to Saudi and bows then to Saudi King---Then the Obama administration leaks all the top secret diplomatic communications between Saudi and the US.

[deMolay]

Some foreign newspapers are calling for the resignation of Hillary Clinton. Now that foreign Heads of State know what Obama really thinks of them. He will be about as welcome as a Pork Sandwich at a Jewish wedding. It is being called the greatest diplomatic disaster in history.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'S')ome foreign newspapers are calling for the resignation of Hillary Clinton. Now that foreign Heads of State know what Obama really thinks of them. He will be about as welcome as a Pork Sandwich at a Jewish wedding. It is being called the greatest diplomatic disaster in history.

[Tyler_JC]

Is any of this information actually a surprise to anyone?

It merely confirms everything I've been suspecting for years.

Yes, the US government bribes foreign dictators. Who doesn't?
Yes, the CIA arrests and interrogates people it doesn't trust.
Yes, the US government has plans to deal with a collapse in North Korea.
Yes, we offer trade deals with small countries in exchange for political favors.
Yes, the government spies on foreign agents (who are themselves, spies).

Again, is any of this "new" information to anyone?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')The fact that we still tolerate Saudi funding of terrorism is outrageous..

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'F')irst Obama goes to Saudi and bows then to Saudi King---Then the Obama administration leaks all the top secret diplomatic communications between Saudi and the US.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'F')irst Obama goes to Saudi and bows then to Saudi King---Then the Obama administration leaks all the top secret diplomatic communications between Saudi and the US.