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Re: Land redistribution and revolution
Re: America on the brink of a Second Revolution
by Lore » Mon 11 Oct 2010, 22:43:12
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'M')y prediction is for a Soviet style amicable divorce, but if I were predicting "revolution" I'd predict 1860s style (politically) civil war driven by sectionalism.
I wouldn't predict anything of the kind. The strict geographical, class, ethnic and social boundaries that divided the union at that time do not exist anymore. The possible threat would be from some fanatical wing-nut and party gaining political prominence and winning the majority support of the populace. Fat chance of that even happening.
Rather, collapse would most likely happen in stages, moving downward to more and more local levels, ultimately to a tribal state. Revolution will be a rather silent affair, when the function of government and authority can no longer provide the security and services it once did abdicating its responsibilities to the next tier down.
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
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Re: America on the brink of a Second Revolution
by gollum » Mon 11 Oct 2010, 23:00:22
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'M')y prediction is for a Soviet style amicable divorce, but if I were predicting "revolution" I'd predict 1860s style (politically) civil war driven by sectionalism.
I wouldn't predict anything of the kind. The strict geographical, class, ethnic and social boundaries that divided the union at that time do not exist anymore. The possible threat would be from some fanatical wing-nut and party gaining political prominence and winning the majority support of the populace. Fat chance of that even happening.
Rather, collapse would most likely happen in stages, moving downward to more and more local levels, ultimately to a tribal state. Revolution will be a rather silent affair, when the function of government and authority can no longer provide the security and services it once did abdicating its responsibilities to the next tier down.
don't argue any of your points, confederacies of states are the natural progression as the federal government becomes increasingly ineffective.
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Re: America on the brink of a Second Revolution
by PrestonSturges » Mon 11 Oct 2010, 23:53:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hose who could work but don't and have the educational level to compete with illegal immigrants but don't.
Hey, this is the exact definition of "white trash".....
except that they don't live in the urban areas, they live in trailers out in the country and fly the confederate flag....
There is a fellow that works out in the back of the plant where I work, and he more or less fits that definition.... He's on section-8 housing, his 5 kids and enormous wife get food stamps, but he has his radio turned to Rush Limbaugh every time I go out there... He does nothing but complain about the government taking over the health care system even though the plant had to take up a collection because he was behind on the rent because he, himself, had too many medical bills.... but heaven forbid the government make him wait in line for his kids get some medicine for their frequent ear aches....Why is he not on the other side? When the lightbulb finally comes on in the minds of these people, or when the mammary gland of government aid dries up and those little kids go hungry, then you will have your revolution....
Notice that the GOP strongholds are inevitably the richest and the dead last rock bottom poor districts? Michelle Bachmann's for instance.
The rednecks are essentially illiterate, godawful stupid, and gullible as three year olds. They seem to believe that anything on television, the newspapers, and radios must by law be true.
Although they are obsessed with the idea that other people are poor because they are lazy, these people are poor because they are stupid. And that's not necessarily intellectual stupidity - this is psychological stupidity. They aren't capable of learning, because that would remind them that other people know more than they do, and that enrages them. They are too busy being angry at people who know more to learn anything. College is for faggots.
What the elites have realized is that poverty breeds Republicans. So they are creating as many poor people as possible.
The only thing that really cracks the armor of their fantasy world is when they are killed by the power elites, like the labor protestors of the early 1900's. But Kent State was a joke to them, those were dirty hippies getting what they deserved.
The elites have realized that the poor are zombies. Mass media and lack of education can get coal miners to defend the coal companies from the dirty hippies no matter how miners are killed and how many mountains are destroyed. Unless the coal company actually machine guns them, they'll vote Republican without fail. Obama's "guns and religion" remark was spot on.
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