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Fidel Castro Concedes Communism Is A Failure

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Re: Fidel Castro Concedes Communism Is A Failure

Unread postby americandream » Wed 22 Sep 2010, 20:39:14

If he is responsible for anything, its in securing the grip of the worlds cartel of capital over a very lucrative piece of oil rich real estate. The deaths of Iraqis is unavoidable collateral damage. A few of course, will benefit from colluding in the seizure of this asset from its nationalist owners.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'A')t least he took fifty years to kill them, unlike Bush.

Seriously, he seems to have a wise old head on him nowadays.


Oh pray tell how many till Bush butcher and by what definition? I bet you count every Iraqi killed by an insurgent suicide bomber to be part the "Bush murder count". 8O :roll:


Bush destabilised a country with no thought of how it would progress after he had done so. He even dismantled the military and the police. So, yes, he is responsible. Saddam was not the most pleasant chap in the world, but he kept islamists at bay. Thanks to Bush, that is no longer the case. And he is directly responsible for the consequences of his actions.


He is not responsible for the murders committed by Ba'athist butchers. Especially since we've tried to kill them from Day 1 in 2003. The problem was one of tactics, not morals.
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Re: Fidel Castro Concedes Communism Is A Failure

Unread postby ralfy » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 13:47:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'A')t least he took fifty years to kill them, unlike Bush.

Seriously, he seems to have a wise old head on him nowadays.


Oh pray tell how many till Bush butcher and by what definition? I bet you count every Iraqi killed by an insurgent suicide bomber to be part the "Bush murder count". 8O :roll:


Bush destabilised a country with no thought of how it would progress after he had done so. He even dismantled the military and the police. So, yes, he is responsible. Saddam was not the most pleasant chap in the world, but he kept islamists at bay. Thanks to Bush, that is no longer the case. And he is directly responsible for the consequences of his actions.


But wasn't the U.S. also trying to sell arms to Iraq and use "Islamists" against the Soviets in Afghanistan?
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Re: Fidel Castro Concedes Communism Is A Failure

Unread postby davep » Tue 28 Sep 2010, 13:20:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'A')t least he took fifty years to kill them, unlike Bush.

Seriously, he seems to have a wise old head on him nowadays.


Oh pray tell how many till Bush butcher and by what definition? I bet you count every Iraqi killed by an insurgent suicide bomber to be part the "Bush murder count". 8O :roll:


Bush destabilised a country with no thought of how it would progress after he had done so. He even dismantled the military and the police. So, yes, he is responsible. Saddam was not the most pleasant chap in the world, but he kept islamists at bay. Thanks to Bush, that is no longer the case. And he is directly responsible for the consequences of his actions.


But wasn't the U.S. also trying to sell arms to Iraq and use "Islamists" against the Soviets in Afghanistan?


Yes. And, so what? Political expediency changes over time.

Note: I may have missed any irony there....
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Re: Fidel Castro Concedes Communism Is A Failure

Unread postby americandream » Tue 28 Sep 2010, 17:47:28

With the capitalist, expediency, like growth, is infinite, and has no limits. (no irony intended),

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'A')t least he took fifty years to kill them, unlike Bush.

Seriously, he seems to have a wise old head on him nowadays.


Bush destabilised a country with no thought of how it would progress after he had done so. He even dismantled the military and the police. So, yes, he is responsible. Saddam was not the most pleasant chap in the world, but he kept islamists at bay. Thanks to Bush, that is no longer the case. And he is directly responsible for the consequences of his actions.


But wasn't the U.S. also trying to sell arms to Iraq and use "Islamists" against the Soviets in Afghanistan?


Yes. And, so what? Political expediency changes over time.

Note: I may have missed any irony there....
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