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Carbon capture and storage schemes propose to snatch CO2 from industrial chimneys and bury it in ocean basins or geological formations. But having gone to the trouble of capturing the gas, squirrelling it away underground is a wasted opportunity, says Dermot O'Hare at the University of Oxford. He thinks converting CO2 into methanol for use as fuel is a smarter move.
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Re: CO2 in the air could be green fuel feedstock
by Phildo » Thu 11 Feb 2010, 02:21:52
mho . . . .
Does not seem that smart of an idea. Methanol is an extreme neurotoxin, and most uses of it would just generate more CO2 -- along with CO, NOx, etc., etc.
Smarter plan with CO2 is to not generate it.
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Re: CO2 in the air could be green fuel feedstock
by Tanada » Thu 11 Feb 2010, 07:20:35
You know around a decade ago I read a fascinating article that pointed out something very simple to do about CO2, for the USA anyhow. The plan was pretty simple, neither corn stover nor straw is actually used to its full potential, farmers simply do not need nearly as much of either as they produce on an annual basis. Most of it is left to rot in the fields where it adds almost noting to organic soil content, but it does return its CO2 content to the atmosphere. The plan was to go back over the fields after harvest was done for the crops and gather the Stover and Straw that was normally left behind, bail it with the existing equipment into large dense bails, and then sink it in deep anoxic basins off the coast or into the alluvial delta fans on the ocean bottom where it would be sequestered very long term. From the calculations they did the USA could sequester half of the CO2 needed at the time to meet the Kyoto protocol goals.
You could accomplish something similar by doing the same thing with waste paper, yard waste and leaves. The problem is not that we lack the ability to do what we should, the problem is we lack the will.
You could accomplish something similar by doing the same thing with waste paper, yard waste and leaves. The problem is not that we lack the ability to do what we should, the problem is we lack the will.
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To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Joule Unlimited: ‘Fuel from thin air’ comes closer, clearer
by Carlhole » Mon 23 Aug 2010, 10:39:01
BioFuels Digest
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')assachusetts, the secretive Joule Unlimited (then known as Joule Biotechnologies) emerged late last year from “stealth mode” with the startling announcement that their technology could produce up to 15,000 gallons per acre of drop-in hydrocarbon fuels, using only sunlight, CO2 and (fresh, brackish or saline) water as inputs. A radical new micro-organism and a technology known as a solar converter were at the heart of Joule’s IP.
Did it the announcement change everything? No. Will it change the biofuels competitive landscape? It already has, and conceptually contains those Four Horsemen of a Market Apocalyse that VC so dearly love: disruptive, scalable, competitive, protected technology.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')assachusetts, the secretive Joule Unlimited (then known as Joule Biotechnologies) emerged late last year from “stealth mode” with the startling announcement that their technology could produce up to 15,000 gallons per acre of drop-in hydrocarbon fuels, using only sunlight, CO2 and (fresh, brackish or saline) water as inputs. A radical new micro-organism and a technology known as a solar converter were at the heart of Joule’s IP.
Did it the announcement change everything? No. Will it change the biofuels competitive landscape? It already has, and conceptually contains those Four Horsemen of a Market Apocalyse that VC so dearly love: disruptive, scalable, competitive, protected technology.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')lmost a year has passed, and Joule has constructed and is now operating a pilot plant in Leander, Texas, where they say they have also demonstrated proof of concept on 10 renewable chemicals they describe as “blendstock for end products”. The company changed its name to Joule Unlimited, and has placed itself on a path towards what it terms initial phase 1 commercialization in late 2011, which will start with a demonstration and then add, utilizing the solar-like modularity of the company’s technology to rapidly scale.
There still hasn’t been a whole heck of a lot parsed out in the media about Joule’s magic bug, and even less analysis of the overall Joule system. So the Digest spent some time with Joule CEO Bill Sims last week, and on the heels of our “Solar Biofuels” review from last Friday, here is what we have learned about Joule...
I remember posting something about this company as it was formerly known - Joule Biotechnologies. It's been operating secretively for some time but is now out of the closet. I figured they were another algae fuels company since they referred to their technology back then as "highly engineered photosynthetic organisms". But it turns out they were working on E.Coli all along.
E.coli... Aren't those the bugs that live where the sun don't usually shine? It's funny that Joule was able to teach them the photosynthesis trick.
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